The Lie of Cheap Renewable Energy

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    And when one eventually blows up before it leaves the atmosphere?
     
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    The Germans are learning about the lie of cheap renewable energy.
    2025 Will Bring More Energy Pain For Germans As CO2 Tax Set To Rise Again!
    By P Gosselin on 1. December 2024

    Germany’s CO2 tax is set to increase from the current 45 euros a tonne to 55 euros at the turn of 2025…
    This will drive up heating and energy costs consumers and businesses.


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    Hat-tip: Blackout News

    The hefty rise means the tax on CO2 will almost double in just 2 years. In 2023, the carbon tax was 30 euros a tonne.

    But it doesn’t stop there, reports Blackout News. The CO2 tax gets taxed by the value added tax, which is currently 19 percent.

    “Households and businesses that rely on petrol, diesel, heating oil or natural gas are facing growing financial challenges, writes Blackout News. “A liter of petrol will be 4.3 cents more expensive due to the CO2 tax, diesel will rise by 4.7 cents per liter. Heating costs will also rise dramatically. A kilowatt hour of gas will become a further 0.21 cents more expensive, which means a total increase of 1.21 cents compared to the time before the CO2 tax. Heating oil costs 17.5 cents more per liter – an increase that affects many households.”

    The sharp increases will certainly bode ill for the current SPD-Greens-FDP coalition government – which undergoes a vote of no confidence later this month in Parliament. A no-confidence vote will lead to the dissolution of parliament and thus a new election within 60 days of the vote.

    The pain at the gas pumps and from higher utility bills will make the current coalition government partners even more unpopular. But whether a new government led by Friedrich Merz (CDU) will change anything remains highly doubtful. Only the opposition AfD party has staunchly opposed the CO2 tax. Currently Merz’s CDU party is well ahead in the polls.

    65 euros per tonne in 2026

    The CO2 tax is set to rise to 65 euros a tonne in 2026, making the energy cost gap between Germany and other countries potentially unsustainable. Already there’s a growing dissatisfaction among German citizens and businesses as energy prices skyrocket into the stratosphere. Meanwhile the Trump administration as signaled a strong interest in making energy affordable again in USA.

    Who’s profiting from the CO2 tax? The government.

    According to Blackout News: “More than 18 billion euros flowed into the coffers, including 10.7 billion euros from national emissions trading for heat and transport. Compared to 2022, revenue in this area increased by 67 percent. Revenue from European emissions trading also increased by 12% to €7.7 billion.”

    Read entire article here (German):
     
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    More from California.


    https://patch.com/california/across-ca/cas-solar-surplus-driving-your-energy-bill-analysis-finds
     
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    As a resident I would expand that to ‘continuously unusually stupid’.
     
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    The consequences of Green Energy foolishness.
    Cautious Optimism On The Demise Of The Green Energy Fantasy
    December 21, 2024/ Francis Menton
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    • It has been obvious now for many years to the numerate that the fantasy future powered by wind and sun is not going to happen. Sooner or later, reality will inevitably intrude.

    • And yet, the fantasy has gone on for far longer than I ever would have thought possible. Hundreds of billions of dollars of government largesse have been a big part of the reason, going not just to green energy developers but also to academic charlatans and environmental NGOs to fan the flames of climate alarm.

    • It was three years ago, in December 2021, that I asked the question, “Which Country Or U.S. State Will Be The First To Hit The Green Energy Wall?”
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    More consequences of Green Energy foolishness.
    More Reasons For Cautious Optimism About The Demise Of The Green Energy Fantasy
    December 23, 2024/ Francis Menton

    • My post on Saturday noted one big reason for optimism that the green energy fantasy is coming to the end of its run: the first country, Germany, has apparently begun to hit the green energy “wall.”

    • Although Germany has never consistently reached even 50% of its electricity production from wind and solar, its ability to continue its green energy dreams has stalled: its electricity prices have soared, its manufacturing sector has been seriously undermined, its economy is in recession, and recently its green-promoting government has fallen. Its failed example now stands for others to see and avoid.

    • And as I look around at developments since the election, I see a number of other reasons to reinforce my cautious optimism.
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    It’s as though the German people although highly intelligent are easily persuaded like lemmings to jump off the cliff following flawed leadership.
     
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    It has happened before.:salute:
     
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    Tragically so.
     
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    Sadly, Germany is committing suicide.

    Germany's Economic And Political Suicide
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    'Europe’s economic implosion is self-induced. Its ruling elites over-tax and over-regulate the private sector and obsess with promoting unreliable renewable energy to replace fossil and nuclear fuels in its crusade to ‘save the planet’ from an alleged impending climate'

    Maybe Musk is right, that only AfD can save Germany.
     
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    Which is why our yearly electricity bill is less than $200 after we installed our roof top solar system.
     
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    It’s low because you haven’t included the subsidies and depreciation paid for by you and your neighbors not to mention the artificially high price that your utility pays per kwh fed into the grid. Home solar panels feeding into utility grids is probably one of the dumbest ideas ever floated. The key fact leading to that conclusion is the commitment to it by the morons steering the boat In Sacramento.
     
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    Replying to a post from nearly two years ago?
     
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    That's the meaning of life.
     
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    Even better, I get money in the pocket. Not even a big system.
     
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    Money transferred to you from your neighbors.
     
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    The Germans are learning first hand about the cost of the green folly. They pay 3X the US average.
     
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    What meaning would that be?
     
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    That it costs me less than $200 annually for my electricity, and with a solar battery I could go off grid.
     

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