The Man on the Throne by Christian Andreason.... is he onto something important?

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    Just after the nine minute mark in this video this near death experiencer makes the statement that a little piece.......
    from G-d the Father.......
    goes out to us when we are conceived.

    This is logical and fits with what I have read about this from near death experiencers.......
    and the Jewish and Christian scriptures as well.......


     
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    Just out of interest Dennis, why do you never write the word 'God'
     
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    Iblees as satan who would not bow to Adam although the others did.

    Adam, before the 'fall', Iblees, as a 'serpent'. In the Qur'an, Iblees, if not a serpent, could be a 'person/human being'. 'I will not bow to Adam, even before the fall of 'Adam'', says this 'Iblees', 'person/human being', because this person, Iblees, thinks he/she is more 'Righteous' than Adam was, even before the 'fall'. But this 'Iblees' is more 'human' than Adam was before the 'fall'.


    How do these things come about?

    1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

    1 John 1:10 "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."


    1 John 4:3 "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."


    1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."


    we should confess:
    3670. homologeó
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    to confess, profess
    From a compound of the base of homou and logos; to assent, i.e. Covenant, acknowledge -- con- (pro-)fess, confession is made, give thanks, promise.



    'Agree with'.


    If we 'agree' with The Lord, admit, confess, agree, that certain things are 'wrongful', and could be in the 'better way(s)......


    If we 'agree' with The Lord, admit, confess, agree, that certain things are 'rightful', and could get 'better and better'....


    If we 'agree' with The Lord, admit, confess, agree, that His Father and His God are/IS 'Good' and that His Father and His God are/IS not ' 'bad' '.



    Matthew 12:30 "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."



    Those that do not 'agree' with The Lord upon these things are 'against' Him and tells others that He is a liar.


    In other words, 'Lord, You would know 'more' about Your Father and Your God than I so I take Your Word as Truth to how/what 'They' are 'like' and I do not say that what You say of 'Them' is a lie as if I know 'more/better' than You'.



    To say this/To be able to say this, even with the speech, is to be 'in' 'admitting/agreeing/confessing/professing' with, together, in union with, Him.


    Matthew 12:30 "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."



    This does not mean that every person that is in 'union' with Him needs to go out and 'do' as He did. The relationship can also be a 'personal' relationship.


    Joshua 1:9 "....for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest."



    Some find this to be wrong and not a right thing to do if the person is in a 'life/lifestyle' of 'free love'.....


    Luke 5:8 "When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord."



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    From a 'secular/non-secular' standpoint, one might say, then use proper 'judgement/reasoning/understanding/knowledge' and 'practice' 'safely'.


    How would the non-secular be able to say this?

    Proper judgement/reasoning/understanding/knowledge comes from 'Them'.

    Even towards all things 'Science' and even towards all things 'Medicine', etc...


    The LORD God (J)esus Christ seeks those that will/can 'aid/agree' along with, in union with, 'Them' towards 'mankind/humanity/life' so that the 'proper' increases may abound unto the better and better towards/for 'mankind and humanity and life'.


    And this IS Love.


    example of this Love:

    "Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves." - Philippians 2:3

    -

    example of this Love:


    Ephesians 6:1 "Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right."

    "And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord." - Ephesians 6:4


    etc...



    For 'you'? For 'myself'?

    For 'mankind/humanity/life'.


    -


    HYMN III. Aśvins
    4 O Indra marvellously bright, come, these libations long for thee,
    Thus by fine fingers purified.


    with/by 'fine' fingers purified...



    HYMN I. Agni.
    8 Ruler of sacrifices, guard of Law eternal, radiant One,
    Increasing in thine own abode.


    Increasing 'Thine' Own, abode, Thy Earth and World(s).



    When a person understands/realizes/agrees that The Eternal One(s) seek the 'better and better' unto mankind/humanity/life, the person can begin seeing each and every Scripture to/about them, regardless of which 'faith', in Praise to Their Goodness.
     
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    When a person understands/realizes/agrees that The Eternal One(s) seek the 'better and better' unto mankind/humanity/life, the person can begin seeing each and every Scripture to/about them, regardless of which 'faith', in Praise to Their Goodness.



    [4:171]

    O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is the Messenger of God, and His Word that He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, .... To Him belongs everything in the heavens and the earth, and God is a sufficient Protector." - an-Nisa'

    In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.



    HYMN I. Agni.
    8 Ruler of sacrifices, guard of Law eternal, radiant One,
    Increasing in thine own abode.



    Psalm 19:2 "Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge."


    Job 38:4;7 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? ..."

    "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"



    The morning stars sang together... just as the sons of God shouted for joy.

    If the shouting of the sons of God is 'figurative', then so also the stars singing together. If the shouting of the sons of God is not 'figurative', then neither the 'stars' singing together.






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    Job 38:4;7 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? ..."

    "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"


    The morning stars sang together... just as the sons of God shouted for joy.

    If the shouting of the sons of God is 'figurative', then so also the stars singing together. If the shouting of the sons of God is not 'figurative', then neither the 'stars' singing together.








    John 14:9 "Jesus said to him, "Have I been among you all this time and you do not know me, Philip? The one who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"


    When the Prophet Muhammad died, the Quran had been fully written down. It was not in book form, however. It was recorded on different parchments and materials, held in the possession of the Companions of the Prophet.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/compilation-of-the-quran-2004545


    Muslims believe that the Quran was orally revealed by God to the final Prophet, Muhammad, through the archangel Gabriel (Jibril), incrementally over a period of some 23 years, beginning on 22 December 609 CE,when Muhammad was 40, and concluding in 632, theyear of his death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran




    God is not 'lacking' as some might say. It is 'mankind/humanity' which is lacking.



    Is this offensive to you? Are you the entirety of 'mankind and humanity'?
    Even since the day of the Crucifixion and since The Lord's Ascension?



    Acts 1:9-11 "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

    003:055
    [Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ. - Ali 'Imran


    -

    003-052
    But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, "Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah ?" The disciples said," We are supporters for Allah . We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].

    003-053
    Our Lord, we have believed in what You revealed and have followed the messenger Jesus, so register us among the witnesses [to truth]."

    - Ali 'Imran



    Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."


    9 لانك ان اعترفت بفمك بالرب يسوع وآمنت بقلبك ان الله اقامه من الاموات خلصت.


    يسوع

    'J'? as in 'John' or '(J)udge' or in '(J)am'?


    yasue
    jasue
    asue


    Vashti (Hebrew: וַשְׁתִּי‬, Vashti, Koine Greek: Αστιν Astin) was Queen of Persia and the first wife of Persian King Ahasuerus in the Book of Esther, a book included in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and read on the Jewish holiday of Purim. She was banished for her refusal to appear at the king's banquet to show her beauty as the king wished, and Esther was chosen to succeed her as queen. In the Midrash, Vashti is described as wicked and vain. She is viewed as an independent-minded heroine in feminist interpretations of the Purim story.


    Ahasuerus takes Memucan's advice, and sends letters to all of the provinces that men should dominate in their households. Ahasuerus subsequently chooses Esther as his queen to replace Vashti.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vashti



    'hell hath no fury like the scorn of a woman'
     
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    Persia:
    6539. Paras
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    Persia, Persians
    Of foreign origin; Paras (i.e. Persia), an Eastern country, including its inhabitants -- Persia, Persians.


    --


    The Chief Secretary of Madhya Pradesh, Shri Avani Vaish has passionately nurtured Arera club in last 5 years.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arera_Colony



    India - Shem - Indras
    Iraq - Ham - Hammurabi



    Love or war within the home families?


    What do you 'preach'?


    -


    How the letter 'J' has caused many controversies...


    Noah: Shem: Ham: Japheth

    5270. Noah
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    Noah
    From nuwa'; movement; Noah, an Israelitess -- Noah.

    5146. Noach
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    Noah
    The same as nuwach; rest; Noach, the patriarch of the flood -- Noah.


    Which is Noah; the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth?





    Shem
    8035. Shem
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    Sem, Shem
    The same as shem; name; Shem, a son of Noah (often includ. His posterity) -- Sem, Shem.


    Ham
    2526. Cham
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    Ham
    The same as cham; hot (from the tropical habitat); Cham, a son of Noah; also (as a patronymic) his descendants or their country -- Ham.


    Japheth:
    3315. Yepheth
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    Japheth
    From pathah; expansion; Jepheth, a son of Noah; also his posterity -- Japheth.


    Yeh-feth, Ja(y)-pheth

    Close enough?


    Yasue, Jaysue, Jahsue


    Mike, Mick, Mik

    Name, Gname, J'aime, Jaime.

    Jaime is a common Spanish and Portuguese masculine given name for Jacob, James, Jamie, or Jacques. ... The names Diego (Spanish) and Diogo (Portuguese) are also Iberian versions of Jaime. In the United States, Jaime is used as an independent masculine given name, along with given name Jimmy.


    Cool, Kool, Ku, Coo


    Jeesus, Jesus, Heesus, Jaysus, Eeesus.

    Yasue, Jahsue, Jaysue, Jesus


    Timothy, Timoty, Timeth, Zimmer, Zim, Zimmy, Zimothy


    Is Zimothy the same Timothy?


    Yasue, the Son of Mary. Jesus, the Son of Mary.

    Timothy, the son of Mary. Zimothy, the son of Mary.

    Mary bore Jesus, Maryam bore Yasue, María bore Jesús, Mary bore
    Isus, Maria bore Gesù.


    In Korea and Japan, Yesu and Iesu was borne by the same Lady.

    Yesu - Yaesue
    Iesu - Ieh-su (with a short u and with a full immediate stop)
     
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    And if you think Yasue in Arabic is prounced as Yaesue in Korean, that is not correct.

    Yasue in Arabic is more: Yae-sooh'w'ha-hoo


    Yesu in Korean is more: Yiay-su.


    But still, after all this, what was the Name of the male child that Mary bore?


    Why would it matter?

    Because if it really doesn't matter, that would mean that the Angel Gabriel spoke a Name, in Prophetic voice, to be given to the male child of Mary which would only and later come into being after 1600 years. And He was being 'called' in a Name, which was to 'be-come' only after 1600 years later, while 'Be-ing' over 1600 years prior.

    And this would mean that The Name of Jesus was not existent during those 1600 years.

    Logics of Philosophy could prove if this statement is true or false.


    There is one way this could have occurred, though. For the letter 'J' to have been taken out of the vocabulary so that it could be 'reintroduced' back into the alphabet when it has been dated to have been done so, roughly in the 15th or 16th century or so.


    And if this was the case, it would show how every 'current' Name of Jesus in their own language is 'correct' to the original birth Name given to the Son of Mary, which would have been 'JESUS'.


    Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."


    והיא ילדת בן וקראת את שמו ישוע כי הוא יושיע את עמו מעונותיהם׃

    ישוע - (J)esus
    יושיע - save/rescue
    שמו - set, deposit, place, put


    Joshua 1:1 "Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying,"

    1ויהי אחרי מות משה עבד יהוה ויאמר יהוה אל יהושע בן נון משרת משה לאמר׃


    Joshua 1:10 "Then Joshua commanded the officers of the people, saying,"

    10ויצו יהושע את־שטרי העם לאמר׃

    ישוע - (J)esus

    - from right to left -

    ישוע - (J)esus
    י - yes
    ש - yes
    ו - yes
    ע - yes

    ----
    יהושע - (J)oshua
    י - yes
    ה - no
    ו - yes
    ש - yes
    ע - yes

    ה - Hebrew Hei

    He is the fifth letter of the Semitic abjads, including Phoenician[​IMG], Hebrew Hē ה‬, Aramaic[​IMG], Syriac Hē ܗ, and Arabic Hāʾ ه. Its sound value is a voiceless glottal fricative ([h]).

    The proto-Canaanite letter gave rise to the Greek Epsilon, Etruscan [​IMG] , Latin E, Ë and Ɛ, and Cyrillic Е, Ё, Є and Э. He, like all Phoenician letters, represented a consonant, but the Latin, Greek and Cyrillic equivalents have all come to represent vowel sounds.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_(letter)



    Jesus and Joshua would be the same without the 'Hei' or ה


    Yodh, Shin, Waw, Ayin - (J)esus
    Yodh, Waw, Shin, Ayin - (J)oshua; (J)oshua: Yodh, He, Waw, Shin, Ayin
     
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    LORD:

    אל קנוא ונקם יהוה נקם יהוה ובעל חמה נקם יהוה לצריו
    ונוטר הוא לאיביו׃


    Yodh, He, Waw, He


    Yodh = 'J' sound?
    Waw = sound of 'v' as at the end of Tav? תּ ת‬ ?



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    Even Japanese does not have the 'J' sound. But it does have the 'He' and the 'Wa' and 'Ya' but no 'Vu'.



    Arabic.


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    The 'Ha', the 'Waw', the 'Ya', but no 'Vu' nor 'J' sound.



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    The 'A', the 'He',


    The 'A' in Cuminic and Leptonic comes from the 'V' in Venetic and East and West Raetic


    But again, no 'J' sound.


    So then where is the 'Waw' sound?

    o/u

    The 'breath/air' between the o and the u.

    And this would be the unseen, the air, the holy spirit...

    The 'V' is tangible, the Yodh less, the Ayin also tangible, but the Waw not tangible.



    Waw/Vav (wāw "hook") is the sixth letter of the Semitic abjads, including Phoenician wāw [​IMG], Aramaic waw [​IMG], Hebrew vavו‬, Syriac waw ܘ and Arabic wāw و (sixth in abjadi order; 27th in modern Arabic order).

    It represents the consonant [w] (in original Hebrew ), (and [v] in modern Hebrew) if there is a dot in front of or above the vav, it represents the vowels [u] or [o].

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waw_(letter)



    Father in German: Vater pronounced: Fahtah, not Vahtah or Vater.


    Fatah is generally considered to have had a strong involvement in revolutionary struggle in the past and has maintained a number of militant groups.[6][7][8][9][10] Fatah had been closely identified with the leadership of its founder and Chairman Yasser Arafat, until his death in 2004, when Farouk Kaddoumi constitutionally succeeded him to the position of Fatah Chairman, and continued in the position until 2009, when Mahmoud Abbas was elected Chairman. Since Arafat's death, factionalism within the ideologically diverse movement has become more apparent.

    In the 2006 election for the PLC, the party lost its majority in the PLC to Hamas. However, the Hamas legislative victory led to a conflict between Fatah and Hamas, with Fatah retaining control of the Palestinian National Authority in the West Bank through its President.

    From this was crafted the reverse acronym Fatḥ (Fatah) meaning "opening", "conquering", or "victory".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah



    Father Clean, or Clean Father.


    Vater Halal...Fahtah Halal.


    All going back to 1 of 3. Either Shem, Ham or Japheth.


    There might also come a day when Shem, Ham and Japheth are judging over their own lines as patriarchs.


    We know that 1 son of Ham, Mizraim, is Egypt, but Ham had 3 other sons, Canaan and Phut and Cush.

    We know that Shem had sons. Lud, Aram, Ashur, Arphachshad, Elam.

    We know that Japheth had sons. Magog, Gomer, Tubal, Javan, Madai, Tiras.


    We know what Egypt is, we have an idea of what Canaan is, We know that Javan is part of Indonesia, Java Island. So that would mean that Indonesians are part of Japheth's line... The 'midras' could be of Madai. Those living near the Tigris could be of Tiras. Aram could be of 'Bismillah'. Ashur could be part of India. Elam could be part of Iran. etc...
     
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    Midrash is biblical exegesis by ancient Judaic authorities, using a mode of interpretation prominent in the Talmud. The term is also used of a rabbinic work that interprets Scripture in that manner.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midrash


    Rabbis did not exist in Y'srael until after the Babylonian Captivity.


    Those who have a propensity to 'teach' could be of Madai; hence the teachings and enforcings of the teachings.


    So taking 2 sons of Japheth, Javan and Madai, it would seem as if Japheth had a propensity to 'rule' and to 'govern'.


    But there might come a day where Japheth will need to 'rule' and 'govern' over his own lines before he or his children 'rule' or 'govern' over the other 'sons' of his brothers, his father Noah's, grandchildren.


    Canaan, who received the 'curse' actually received not a 'curse' but a blessing. A blessing and 'promise of blessing' that they, Canaan, would be servants. Servants to his brothers as Christ (J)esus was servant to His brothers.


    So Christ should have come from the line of Ham then since He received that 'blessing'. However Christ came from the Line of Shem from where Abram, Abraham, also was within. But since before Noah was, God IS, Christ (J)esus received the blessing of Noah to Canaan while Canaan was still in the 'loins', all things inward, of Noah, having received the tenth or more of the 'blessing' which Noah blessed Canaan with.


    2 Corinthians 4:16 "For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day."


    So if to rule or to govern is your desire, if you ever get the chance to meet Japheth, show him or let him know your desire to rule or govern. Maybe he and The LORD God (J)esus Christ would find you a good candidate for 'Their' Glory and Purpose.


    As for Canaan, to learn how to 'serve' as Christ (J)esus would, would mean learning from Christ (J)esus Himself and for the others, to be appreciative and share in the 'Fruit of the Spirit' in which there is no 'law', would be to The Praise to/of The LORD God (J)esus Christ for the thanks and rejoicings for all the wonderful works which The LORD God (J)esus Christ gives unto the children of men.


    If to do more than Praise and thanks is what a person desires, seek, knock and ask to find Whom might be able to assist you finding the person(s)/Person(s) to speak with.


    Remember that it is with 'skill' and 'knowledge' that one produces work(s).


    2451. chokmah
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    skilful, wisdom, wisely, wit
    From chakam; wisdom (in a good sense) -- skilful, wisdom, wisely, wit.


    Proverbs 7:4 "Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call
    understanding thy kinswoman:"

    998. binah
    Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
    knowledge, meaning, perfectly, understanding, wisdom
    From biyn; understanding -- knowledge, meaning, X perfectly, understanding, wisdom.


    Proverbs 8:12 "I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions."


    http://www.usccb.org/bible/wisdom/1
     
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    Native cultures have been using auyawasca (I can't spell it right from memory) for millenia to induce spiritual hallucinations. They get visions of things such as weird animals that can be incongruent composites of impossible species. The visions have symbolic meanings. Sick/ailing people go the Shaman/Medicine man whose inquiry thusly identifies at least one of zillions of tropical plants suitable in a potion to treat the particular ailment. DNA and the Sirius-B star are no total unknown mysteries to these people because of what they perceived under the influence. Relevant books are available.
     
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    Somewhere I have a book about past lives, in which the author states something like: There is a small piece of God in each of us. It has been there ever since the Unlimited Spirit separated us from Itself and gave us awareness of our individual existence.
     
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