The mindless inanity of the NY CT and CA 'assault weapon' bans

Both "banning" and "assault weapons" are red herrings as terms used for regulating firearms. Semi automatic, full automatic and high capacity are more legitimate terms. At some point, people who want arms of any type regulated will catch on. It all boils down to the make up of the Supreme Court.

 

No, strange as the push to ban firearms that are used in such a low percentage of crime as per the FBI.

 

Hmm.
So far, so good...

 

Funny how a flash suppressor could be regulated or banned here in the U.S. and in the U.K. with all it's Draconian gun laws has no regulations against silencers or suppressors or moderators as folks in the U.K. like to call them.

 

yes, NYC's laws are kinda stupid and show a lack of understanding of how guns operate.

however, I do support permits for handgun possession, but not at their current cost for application and renewal.

NYC has a bad habit of doing the right thing but going waaay too far.

its a problem

 

constitutional rights are not subject to a permit

 

they are if there is a vested and inherent public interest in doing so.

thats why handgun permits will never be stricken by the SCOTUS

 

How many violent career criminals have a "pistol permit", whatever that is?

 

if a permit was required to buy a pistol, say 40 years ago, across the whole USA, there would be a lot fewer murders in the USA

 

wrong-and there is no public interest in harassing honest gun owners

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you constantly just make stuff up and hope some readers are unaware that you make assertions that have no basis in fact.

 

there is no public interest in keeping guns out of the hands of escaped convicts, bail-jumpers, and folks with warrants out for their arrest???????????

wow, when did you stop caring about protecting The People?

 

Not when it also keeps guns out of the hands of law abiding people. My 2A rights shouldn't expire with some "permit" when I have done nothing to deserve to lose my 2A rights. Rights don't depend on "permission".

 

i agree with the Constitutional argument that rights should not come with a $$$ cost.

thats why i think handgun permits should be as inexpensive as possible, if not free

 

you are telling lies again

all the background check does is perhaps keep a felon from buying a gun from a licensed dealer

it does nothing to keep a gun out o felon's hands

you sound like the idiot british home secretary who said that their gun ban meant NO CRIMES are committed with LEGALLY owned handguns

of course it doesn't say anything about actual gun crimes going down

you are quite the form over substance type arguer Ron. You think doing something that costs us millions is a good even if the net impact is ZERO

 

keeping criminals from buying guns from FFLs is a worthwhile result

 

why? not if it costs us lots of money and DOES NOT decrease crime with firearms

and it DOESN'T. You are making the dishonest claim that keeping criminals from having ONE type of firearm (that being one they were able to DIRECTLY buy from a FFL) somehow makes us safer even if that law doesn't prevent them from obtaining firearms from other sources-sources that don't require them to commit perjury on a form (btw that form has been around for almost 50 years)

 

That is true, the permit system in some States, may issue States, denies many people a permit based on need, if they do not carry large sums of cash to and from banks, or are some sort of Security or Armored vehicle operator.

Yet criminals do not need a permit in order to obtain or carry a gun, here in Oregon, the police confiscate many guns from criminals carrying illegally, and Oregon is a shall issue State.

 

if you're a law-abiding citizen in New York State, you will get your premise handgun permit.

no special safety needs required to get it

and many New York State counties are "shall issue" for CCW, but they may require a training course.

 

most people cannot get a carry permit in NYC. Only the wealthy and the connected. That should be struck down by the courts.

 

The Premises licence for handguns is a NYC / NYPD invention, not a NYS handgun licensing regulation, very limited, range visits were limited to a few, allowing a loaded handgun in the home, when many attacks occur outside the home.

The NYC target permit comes with a blue NYS carry permit ( or used to ) good outside the five Boroughs of NYC.... also unlimited range visits.

The vaunted and desired even coveted "Carry Permit" available in various restricted versions, and an unrestricted "Retired Police Officer" or in general unrestricted if you carry enough cash or other "Special Needs" as determined and approved by the Pistol Licensing Division of the NYPD....

 

I agree that no harm would come from an expansion and loosening of NYC's handgun restrictions.

at the very least, the application and renewal fee should be reduced to $150.

 

The same ones currently in the middle of a federal corruption investigation due to issuing officers expediting permits to those who have paid significant bribes, correct? Said officers even supplied permits to known criminals because they could pay enough.

 

$150
You spend more then that on one afternoon's cache of ammo.

 

One afternoons cache of ammo ? do you really cache your ammo before shooting it ? does your ammo require a 3 day waiting period ?
I used to buy ammo and shoot it right away......

 

what is "inanity"?