The minds of white supremacists

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  1. micfranklin

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    The minds of white supremacists (and why they're faulty)

    Because there seems to be a decent amount of white supremacists, or "Supremies" on this forum I feel the need to elaborate and decipher their thinking and why its wrong. Here's what I observe:

    1. "False Homecoming," or the blacks-need-to-go-back-to-Africa argument. This is extremely coming, and starts with the notion that blacks are not fit to live in American society and need to go back to Africa. I call it "False" because going "back" to some place implies that you've been there before at some point, and since many blacks today have never been to Africa it's physically impossible for them to go back.

    2. In addition to #1, I have yet to see a real plan from these Supremies of how to get blacks to go to Africa without causing some sort of upheaval or resistance. I'm black myself and I was born in Maryland, so chances are blacks are not leaving this country for any reason and the Supremies will be hard-pressed to make them leave their home.

    3. "Duke Defense" or claiming that David Duke is not a racist. With his past as a former KKK member, forming and heading his own group whose main purpose is racial segregation, maintaining a Stormfront account and calling for racial segregation in general, there's nothing about this man that says he's not a racist.

    4. Whites in America will be victims of genocide. Genocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic killing of an entire racial, cultural, ethnic, religious or political group. People die on this planet, in every continent and every country, every day, but there's usually nothing systematic about it, much less when it comes to whites in America. In fact whites make up the vast majority of the American population at 72.4%, while blacks are a distant 2nd place at 12.6%, yet Asians have had the highest growth rate at 43.3% since 2000. All this courtesy of the 2010 U.S. Census.

    5. Everything in America should be racially segregated. For those who have failed their history in high school, segregation has been outlawed close to 60 years, think Brown v. Board of Education, and read up on the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th Amendment too.

    6. Racially-mixed cities are a hotbed of crime. This was mentioned in the Civil Rights main forum here, and the reference used for this was some crap site called CofCc.org or something dumb along those lines. One link there stated that the dirtiest cities in America were ones with white minorities, the top 5 being New York City (32% white), Philadelphia (38% white), L.A. (28% white), Memphis (29%) and New Orleans (31% white). Maybe it hasn't occured to them that urban sprawl, large populations and inner city pollution contribute heavily to whether or not cities are clean or dirty. See the actual city list here:

    http://www.travelandleisure.com/ame...ty-of-life-and-visitor-experience/cleanliness

    Once again consulting the census, NYC is actually 44% white, Philly is 41.03%, L.A. is 49.7%, Memphis is 29.3% and New Orleans is 32.9%, sp some of these percentages are off. But I have to wonder why Las Vegas is also near the bottom on this list and 62.05% of the population is white, and on the flipside San Diego, Savannah, Charleston and Austin are also pretty diverse and yet they're in the top 10.

    7. Whites have more right to America than anyone else. Lies. You see, there used to be enormous populations of Native Americans living here back in the old days, but then Europeans insisted on colonizing the New World and in the process wiping out most of the native population here, forcing them onto reservations. Then you add in the African slaves who were forcibly removed from their continent (by whites) and shipped to the New World en masse and forced to work on plantations and in the houses, which in many ways means that Africans helped build America. And its basic reasoning to say that 400+ slaves on one ship can accomplish more work in a day than the 20 or so colonists there.

    8. Multiculturalism dooms nations. No, actually trying to flaunt military strength by building empires, engaging in multiple wars, spending up billions of dollars, bankrupting the economy, forcing people out of jobs, plague and diseases, starvation, natural disasters and all-out genocide is what dooms nations. The Roman Empire, for example could've lasted longer if it wasn't stretched so thin across the world.

    9. Blacks can't succeed in anything if they don't go to historically black colleges. Really, so how did Colin Powell become Secretary of State if he went to City College of New York? Or why is Bill Cosby so well known and famous if he went to Temple?

    10. Whites don't commit hate crimes at the rate that blacks do. Actually, according the FBI's 2009 Hate Crime report, whites committed 4x as many hate crimes as blacks, and the vast majority of those crimes were anti-black, as opposed to anti-white.

    http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/data/table_04.html

    So really there's little to no logic in much of what gets said here in terms of Supremies saying it. These claims are not made based on logic, reasoning or knowledge but gut feelings and pure bias.
     
  2. Albert Di Salvo

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    What is your identity? How do you see yourself?
     
  3. Anders Hoveland

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    1. I do not think blacks should be set back to Africa, just that a separate nation for them should be partitioned off for them somewhere in the southern states. The reason this has not happened in the past is that the whites owned most of the land, and the wealthy were too greedy to be willing to be taxed to compensate the whites for a vast area of land to be set aside for the blacks. I am not in favor of forcing the blacks into a separate nation, just providing extremely strong positive incentives for relocating, such as special grants and allowances, and subsidized grants of land.

    3. There is obviously disagreement about what the term “racist” means. Many members of the KKK do not want to oppress blacks, but simply live separately from them, even if that means increasing taxes on the whites to do so. I believe that any differential treatment based on race should be completely fair and equitable. No race should be treated as “inferior”. Not everyone believes that racial segregation is inherently “racist”.
    Similarly, one could go around name-calling all those in favor of racial integration as “multiracialists”, and all those who think that race does not exist as “race-deniers”.

    will respond to the rest of your points later
     
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    The entire existence of the KKK was predicated on oppressing blacks. They were allowed to do so until the government said FU.
     
  5. PatrickT

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    I think racists share a common mindset, regardless of race. If Rev. Wright were on the radio he could just change a couple of words and be a mentor for a future white racist president.
     
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    4. Whites will be the victims of genocide in the sense that they will be economically displaced from housing and livelihoods. Interracial relationships will also reduce the number of whites and possibly dilute the genetic pool. Whites in the USA also complain of high rates of crime against them by blacks and hispanics, including murder. Similarly, many blacks in Los Angeles, who have seen hispanic gangs carry out targeted executions on blacks, compare the situation with genocide.

    The hispanic population has been reproducing at an alarming rate. To get some idea of how fast, consider that in California, hispanics make up only 37.6% of the total population, yet make up 51% of the students in California’s schools. Within a single generation the hispanic proportion of the population will have increased from 37.6% to 51%. Meanwhile, the white population in the state is actually declining, as the uncontrolled immigration and reproduction is putting severe strain on the state’s economy, depressing wages, driving up taxes, while the overcrowding makes housing unaffordable. Whites in California are having fewer children as a result, and many are leaving the state.

    8. Multiculturalism does doom nations; not in the sense that open war does, but in the form of greatly reduced living standards, crime, and poverty. The more hispanics that are allowed in the USA, the closer the USA will resemble Mexico. And we all know what a terrible place Mexico is for most of its people. Those heavily-policed or isolated tourist destinations travelers visit in Mexico do not give any idea of what the country is really like. If you want to see what multiculturalism does, you have only to look into the minority neighborhoods: the east side of Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, for example.

    10. It is well known that blacks commit crimes at a rate several times higher than whites. No doubt many “hate crimes” committed by blacks against whites are not recognized as such in the courts. A black burglar is much more likely to break into a home in a white neighborhood than a black home in a different neighborhood, independent of the difference in family incomes between the two areas. Many black criminals prefer to rob whites, and sometimes such crimes result in murder, but such incidents do not get counted as “hate crimes”.
     
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    Racist......Everyone has a little racism in them.

    Only difference....Some have the honesty and decency too admit it.
    Others are two-face hipocrits.​
     
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    There you would be wrong. I'm not going to defend Reverend Wright in particular. But your comment is tantamount to saying a bully and those they bully are the same.
     
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    If you truly believe this, then you do not understand what white supremacy is. Much of what you perceive to be white supremacy is nothing more than disdain or disregard for political correctness. Which is entirely different. In fact, it's a lot more equal than the prejudices perpetuated by the people on your side that intend to divide the people along every line imaginable (race, gender, sexuality, religion, economic class) and pit us against one another.

    I can only think of one or two posters on this forum that might be legitimately classified as white supremacists. But they are no worse than the black supremacists and victicrats on the other side who constantly race bait and call everyone a racist who doesn't kiss their ass. I would name names, but I got in trouble for that in another thread yesterday. So this is as specific as the forum will allow me to be.
     
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    "One or two"? Are you on the same forum?
     
  11. PatrickT

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    No, I'm saying a white bully and a black bully are the same and black bullies frequently bully blacks and white bullies frequently bully whites. Bullies are bullies and racists are racists. Their color is irrelevant. Your comment is tantamount to saying a black bully is not a bully but is a victim.
     
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    Some people would rather not live around Mexicans or black people just like some people don't want to live around racist people...who gets the right to decide who gets the boot or who gets the shaft?
    I have my opinions on the subject but politically correct people will lose all reason,common sense as well as all logic for the sake of being politically correct.
    But the evidence is right before anyone's eyes that care to use a little logic and reason.
     
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    The real reason the media turned on Reverend Wright was because he was caught making some comments about the strong influence of jewish organizations over president Obama.

    Thus they had to discredit him, so they used their pretend "conservative" media (Fox as it is called in the states) to attack and try to discredit him.
    The truth is that there is no real conservative media in the USA.
    Look at who the directors and holding corporations are for America's conservative media. surprise, surprise! [sarcasm]

    Conservatives are not ignorant, racist, and stupid like the multiculturalists who actually own the fox news would like everyone to believe.
     
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    That's hilarious. I think Americans were a little miffed at his, "God (*)(*)(*)(*) America" rant. I know President Obama wasn't but that's a different issue. And the Jewish nonsense came up months after Rev. Wright was labeled a loon and the young man he "mentored" became President.
     
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    They used to have a seperate nation in the South a long time ago, it was called the Confederacy, and they didn't work out too well.

    Didn't you just say a seperate nation should be made solely for blacks in the above post? And why only blacks and not any other minority?

    The whole purpose of the Ku Klux Klan was and still is white racial superiority over everyone else, so much they've made bonds with neo-Nazi organizations. And by the way, segregation that is based solely on race and race alone is indeed racist.
     
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    Of course it's different. Being PC is nowhere near the same as saying you can't stand X people because they're skin color is different than yours, or that X people need to leave the country because you don't like them and instead find it easier to jump to conclusions.

    Only one or two? I can think of no less than 5 write off the bat, but like you I'll be discrete about their names.
     
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    Has the same tone as "everyone's got a little bit of a serial killer and rapist in them.":bored:
     
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    Perhaps that's true. Isn't it amazing how some people have the ability to admit those truths, while there are always others such as yourself who would never give in to admitting the truth since it would take away your very reason for agitating and race baiting the fine folk that frequent this race relations site? :omg:
     
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    What's to admit, can you find a quote of mine that says I hate white people? Or think of them as inferior? Or anything along those lines?
     
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    I could no more find a quote of yours saying you hate White people than you could find one of mine saying I hate black people. So what's your point?
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. I can think of one or two black anti-white racists off the top of my head that I've read posts from, but they are far out numbered by white anti-black racists on the forum.

    Anyone who thinks racial segregation is a solution is the problem.
     
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    Anyone who supports MECHA & La Raza is Racist on this Forum.
     
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    The few who don't realize it are "inherently racist."
     
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    They do in one specific way...they all have an interest in emphasizing differences between the races.


    The most successful nations are not mono-racial.


    You could make that argument for any nationality.


    It is also well known that blacks are far more likely to be poor, and that poor people are far more likely to commit crimes in general.

    Racists seem determined to ignore these obvious socio-economic variables for some reason. I guess the reason is obvious...it completely undermines their arguments.


    No hate crime should be recognized as such...they should simply be crimes.


    ORLY? In what way am I racist? You tell me.
     
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    The majority. Thats how democracy works. I thought that was obvious.

    Racists are a minority, therefore they get to **** and do what the rest of us say.


    LOL, maybe it is true with you. It is not true for most of the rest of us.


    I bet NAMBLA thinks the same thing.

    No, not everyone is racist just because you are.
     

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