The Nazis were not a left wing liberal progressive party

Too much hyperbole. This is not a meaningful statement.

 

What in the world are you talking about?

Is this about not wanting to bomb Palestinians?

 

Like so many liberal (*)(*)(*)(*) heads don't have this idealized view of ancient history when we all lived in tribal communes and regard the industrial revolution as origional sin.

 

What's it like just making (*)(*)(*)(*) up?

 

American Conservatives are far from Hitler. You must be one sick person to actually equate them.

Also, weren't they socialists?

 

Facts is facts. No matter how much the right wing in this country would like to disavow Hitler, if the shoe fits, you wear it.

 

I didn't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mention America. YOU DID.

 

Does that mean that you will acknowledge that people like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. were left wing, or are you just being a hypocrite?

 

Im making up this idealized version of prehistory the left has? I think not. If anythig the Nazis were very leftwing in that aspect as they had an idealized view of a Germany that never really existed jystvas the left has this idealized view of a communist hunter gather soceity that also never existed.

 

Check out the British conservatives and American conservatives. The liberals here are Palestinian supporters.

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If you believe that, you have problems.

 

Except it also fits the leftist foot.

 

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see your agenda....just because you didn't literally say "American". We know what you mean.

 

I'll see your Stalin & Mao and raise you a Benito, an Idi, a Duvalier, a Franco and a Pinochet.

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He kissed corporate butt, the corporations kissed his butt. What is it about the definition of 'fascist' that righties are not quite getting?

 

They relaxed gun laws for white non-Jewish citizens

do you have any proof of a historical document of them condemning socialism yet?

 

Fascism grew out of the Italian syndicalist movement. A fascist coperate is just a syndicalist syndicate. Gentile coined his idea as corporative syndicalism where instead of fighting the classes work together for the common and national good. Ironically it is ultimately this form of government that has won over the western left. They however call it a mixed economy or market socialism.

 

I did not mention America. Are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing paranoid?

 

I am a right winger as are a great many libertarians according to the apostles of the left. We all want a smaller government and here you are trying to argue that difference between the left and right isn't about the size of government. That may be true in Europe where right wingers are generally socialists that wish to limit all those social programs to people whose grandparents were born in the country, but it sure as hell isn't in America.

 

Are you confused? Did you think the Nazis were an American party?

 

That smells like what we know of as conservatism. Also it is very conservative, American style to find scapegoats to hurl insults at, like the poor, the illegal immigrants, the gays, and so on.

The Nazis just smell like a modern conservative in America. Our cons never saw a war that didn't send a chill thrill up their legs. If you scratch a modern conservative deep enough you find a Nazi-esque character living there. LOL. Ok, I am joking.

 

Detlev Peukert has a good book on life in Germany under the Nazis, the best I've read on it, including some on resistors, who weren't numerous.

Inside Nazi Germany: Conformity, Opposition, and Racism in Everyday Life-Detlev J.K. Peukert, Yale University Press, 1987.

His book on the Weimar Republic is also very good. Peukert was a Red, but was fairly objective in documenting and reporting factual information, and leaving the spin and analysis to separate sections of his writing, making his books valuable as sources of information others would tend to leave out or ignore on purpose.

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Nazi-Germany-Conformity-Opposition/dp/0300044801

 

Fascism is difficult to categorize with the left-right dichotomy. Mostly because the left-right dichotomy is defective in the highest degree.

Germany's economic policies under Hitler were geared towards systemic state-industry collusion, protectionism, and central planning. I don't much care if you categorize that as left or right - it's not voluntary, and I do not support it.

Most of the world's developed nations do, however. People identify Fascism with genocide - that's a massive problem.

 

Of course the Nazis aren't an American party. The point of my second post was that the current left right dichotomy. as defined by most leftist is that it makes no sense to place people like the Nazis who are only slightly less statist left than the former Soviet Union, on the same side as libertarians who are just short of being anarchists. If you are going to use a linear system to define political views does it not make more sense to start at anarchism and end at totalitarianism? If you do that you would find that most American Christian in fact want less government than most American leftists and drastically less than what Europe already has.

 

Legislating morality is not small government.

And Left vs Right is Change vs Conservatism

 

How quickly we forget.

 

So I dont like our democratic system and want to simply be able to kill you fir disagreeing with me does that make me left wing by your ever changing deffinition.