The New Democratic Party is on the way to make America a third world country.

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    . "Democrats keep fighting private schools. They rather bend to the Teacher's Union who are some of their top ten donors, than help our kids get a better education. We now fund schools according to the neighborhood instead of funding them alike, which gives the richer neighborhoods all the things the school needs, while in many poorer neighborhoods, the teacher sometimes has to buy their school supplies for them. My Grand Daughter went to a school in a poorer neighborhood, but graduated with honors. Trouble is, her school had no computers and it limited the jobs my Grand Daughter could get. Money should really follow the child, not the schools. That way parents could pick the schools that are right for their child's needs and talent. But Democrats fight private schools all the way, and they work. This video taken several years ago can explain it better than I. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koWkSpbsOUM
     
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    They want mindless drones that all get the same exact indoctrinating education.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, no that would be your party with insurrection, calls for CW if you don't get your way, locking people up and trying them with tribunals if you guys win, etc.

    if you are talking about all those "brown, yellow, and black" people, that is the same argument that we have had before since the Irish came into this country in droves.

    As for education is concerned, we put too much politics in what to teach instead of just teaching. For instance, in Texas, they want to change the word "slavery" into "involuntary relocation" because they don't want to butt hurt the feelings of white conservatives who somehow are too sensitive, read snowflake, of what slavery was for a certain group of people in this country. Or the conservatives want to put Christian religion into the curriculum because that will somehow make students smarter? No, it will not. It will force one religion onto others who may not want. Or the conservatives want to control women the way women were controlled some 150 years ago. And the list goes on and on and on and on.

    Now, I am not saying the Dems do not do the same thing, they do, but it is far less than what conservatives are attempting to do with education.

    If you really want to improve education, have three tiers for education: one for the workers who will learn trade skills, one for traditional education, and one for the bright persons, all competitive of course, and all welcome to try for any of the three levels.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try sticking to the subject. We are talking of bad schools and how Democrats are passing kids who can't even do the basic 3R's. All because your Party doesn't want to buck one of their biggest donors.. Our kids aren't learning and your Party is the cause
     
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    Yes, there are bad schools whether it is public, charter, or private. Homeschooling is based primarily on the parents, and yes, some parents are good at teaching their kids and there are parents who don't know a thing about how to teach their kids.

    But private schools are not tested, generally, in the same way as public schools. Private schools should be taking the same tests as public school students do.

    The other thing is you need to stop overgeneralizing and using guilty by association. Since you are retired from the Marines, should I make all Marine Veterans the future Lee H Oswald or army veterans as the next Timothy McVeigh?
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are fighting a good education, while pushing hate for Whites and America through Critical Race Theory

    1. nypost.com › 2021/07/08 › teachers-union-presidentTeachers union president Randi Weingarten defends critical ...
      Jul 8, 2021 · At day two of the American Federation of Teachers’ TEACH 2021 conference Wednesday, author and prominent critical race theory advocate Ibram X. Kendi and AFT president Randi Weingarten...

    2. nypost.com › 2021/07/05 › embracing-critical-theoryEmbracing critical theory, teacher's union says they control ...
      Jul 5, 2021 · The nation’s largest teachers union has approved a plan to promote critical race theory in all 50 states and 14,000 local school districts.
      • Author: Christopher F. Rufo
     
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    Does "There are bad schools everywhere" some how negate parents rights to do one of the most important jobs of parenting: getting the best education for your kids you can afford?
     
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    Ah…yet another “ your party sucks”…”no, your party sucks”. “Nah uh…yours does”. “No poopiehead yours does”.
     
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    In my state, you have a choice to change schools if that school is not performing.

    Whether the school is performing well or not, every state offers a choice between public/charter, private, and homeschool. But with homeschool, you need at least one parent to stay at home to teach the kid. It does not work generally with a two-parent working household unless they are in the upper income brackets.
     
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    They are allowing sex trash books in school libraries, showing how to have anal and oral sex. How to use didoes and butt plugs, While pulling old classic books out of school libraries like, To Kill a Mockingbird and Huckelberry Finn
     
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    1. www.msn.com › en-us › newsDemocrats’ school-choice lies laid bare in Pennsylvania ...
      Surrounded by dozens of teachers-union officials on the steps of the Pennsylvania state Capitol this month, Democratic state Sen. Lindsey Williams excoriated a proposed K-12 education-voucher program.

    2. www.vox.com › politics › 23689496Why the school choice movement is finally scoring ... - Vox
      Sep 11, 2023 · Blue states are sticking with the traditional state-funded public education system, while red states are increasingly creating an option for government-subsidized private school tuition — the...
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      Jul 8, 2021 · For 17 years, a federally funded K-12 scholarship program has given thousands of poor children in D.C. the opportunity to attend private schools and the chance to go on to college. And for
     
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    Vouchers is not school choice. Vourchers are payments by the government to parents to help pay for child's education. The responsibility of the parent, if they want to go outside the public/charter school system, is to pay for it themselves and not have handouts like paupers even though they can afford it. If they can't, as CPAC said, get a better job and more money to afford it.
     
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    No, I am showing why the Democratic Party sucks. Can you read what I said and deny anything I put down is untrue? The trouble with America is that we have more loyalty to a Party than what is good for America. This NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY is not the Party of Kennedy, or my Father. It's not the Party I belonged to from Kennedy all through Carter and again through Clinton. It's changed drastically. But most people don't think so. .
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you pay the child, not the school. Allow the parent to pick the school that is right for their child's need or talent. Watch the video and see the way it should work Now if the school the parent picks is more expensive than the amount allowed to the child, then the parent should pay the extra.
     
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    Marine, since the 1990s, we have had a piss poor education system. We always have since the founding of this country. It is a modern phenonomn for public schools, something we got from the UK. But as I said, there is too much politics in the public schools, and conservatives are no better at making public schools better than Democrats are. This is where your argument fails entirely.

    To give you an example, the conservatives in my state are dead set on calling all, if not most, of the fallen defenders of the Alamo "American citizens." Most were not, not even Jim Bowie was. Travis was, and so was David Crocket, but they are the exceptions. Most were Mexican citizens because they had to swear an oath to Mexico before they could own the land. This was BEFORE Santa Anna became President of Mexico and was in the Mexican Constitution of 1824.

    All states offer a choice in education for primary and secondary education. However, Conservatives offering vouchers, or tax credits, is a new wrinkle. This does not improve schools of any kind. It merely is designed for those parents to not have their children "with them." Some call it a circumventation from the public school busing programs when schools were integrated back in the late 60s to the early to mid 70s. That is what started the boom in private education in this country. But even private schools don't teach true education. they teach their version of it. some are more obvious than others. Some religious schools only teach creationism for Biology, for instance. That is not education, that is religious indoctrination. Creationism is not science. It is a religious dogma to teach how this world was created using "literal" translation to their own political gain.
     
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    Under state law, a child under the age of 18, sometimes 21, cannot have their own bank accounts in their name only. A parent or guardian must be on that account. Vouchers are for the kids, allegedly, and depending on the rules, you may get a penalty for using the funds other than a child's education. But in my state, they want no such concept at all for their proposed voucher program. But a voucher is simply a payment, or bribe, to get votes and really does nothing for education as a whole or for public schools specifically.
     
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    Yes because there are people on the other side saying your party sucks. Or did you not see those posts???
    I think BOTH parties suck. BOTH parties have changed as both have become more extreme.
     
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    I am not talking of giving a child or parent the money. I am saying the same amount of money should be allocated to every child to pick the school of their choice. That money would be given to that school. Now if the private school is more expensive than the public school, the parent puts in the extra money.
     
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    Public schools are where they groom future leftist supporters.
     
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    Correct. There is an allotted amount afforded each child. That is how they arrive at a budget. That amount must follow the child. Choice ensures the best education for every child.
     
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    The Lesson we all need to learn is that schools are run by local and state governments, not the Federal governments. Schools should reflect the values of the community you live in, the money you provide and the people you elect. If your schools don't add up step up and use your votes to fix it. It is not Democrats or Republicans, it is local county and state people who run your schools.
     
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    The trouble is the bright students are all White or Asian. Integration was supposed to fix this, but it didn't.

    The wokesters latest strategy is to handicap the White kids by demoralizing them with CRT and shutting down the elite high schools, so the bright (White kids don't excel.
     
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    To fix it is to allow parents to chose the kind of school that their child needs to exceed. My child might have a gift in music. I'm going to want to put him in a school that has a music department. Your kid might be good in sports. Your going to want to put him into a school that has a good sport program. I may have a kid that has trouble reading or doing math. That's the kind of school I want him in. A kid might have mechanical skills, I would want him in a trade school, which my Son did go to and got a very good job with an aircraft repair company. Let the school fill the child's need and skill and we wouldn't have the problem we have today.The child has the education he needs and is less likely to act up in school like what is going on.

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    I don't believe in funding home schooling. I do believe in funding charter and private schools that follow the guidelines laid down by the Education department. They can go farther in teaching the skill the parent put them in there for. Private schools have proven themselves and they can help fix the problem we have now. Watch the video I put up. I don't back off what I said about the Democrats. Their policies of how they are doing things is bad for education. They are afraid to buck one of their biggest donors.
     
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