Just so that everyone is clear, I have no truck with the like of Nick Griffin and Geert Wilders, both of whom are one trick pony's, and minor politicians, in the grander scheme of life. They are agitators who set out to stir up inter racial problems, in targetted cities and towns, while officially condemning violence, privately the likes of Griffin have criminal records, and usually for racially aggravated crimes. There are other sources who will overstate or even lie about Muslims, and the growth of Islam, for the same kinds of reasons. They want you to think there are is some mass invasion, when in fact the first records of Muslims arriving on these islands was several hundred years ago, and since that time, the Muslim population has grown to all of 4%. That is a far cry from what you might call an en masse invasion, isn't it? And yet, I do worry about any growth of Islam, within Britain, for quite different reasons to Griffin and Wilders. For all it's many faults, and there are many, British society had evolved to the point in which society either no longer found that religion played an important part of their lives, or if they did attend church, it tended to be the older generations, who would do so as more of a social occasion, than much else. There is certainly not the Christian fundmentalism that you would find in various parts of the US, the systematic abuse of children mentally, in places like Jesus Camp would simply not be acceptable to the people here, imo. And so, just as we have reached a point in our psychological development in which British society has gradually moved away from a society that was enslaved to superstition, we could now find that an increase in Islam will simply see British society regressing, in respect of that fact that we will have more citizens who have gone back to superstition (Islam on this occasion). Inevitably, this will have a knock on effect at schools, at a time in which our young should be at school to learn about the usual subjects, as well as being scientfically minded and rationale, we are going to risk having to regress, and accomodate fairy stories, only Muslim one's now, as well as Christian one's.
I think the atheism of Britain is one of the reasons you have so much hooliganism and alcoholism in your lower classes. Poor people without God have nothing to look forward to. It turns them nihilistic and self-destructive.
Are you saying that if they believed in one of the thousands of historical gods, that they would be more fullfilled somehow? Even though it is probably a fairytale?
Yes. Any religion is better than no religion at all. The lower classes need religion to keep their equilibrium. In Britain and Russia, where there are large number of lower class atheists, you see the same problems -- widespread hooliganism and alcoholism.
That is utterly false, and I think you know it. People who believe in supersitious tales commit crimes, all kinds. So do people who do not. If you are suggesting that the Bible or the Koran acts as some sort of moral compass to modern thinking people, and that without it we are all doomed and lost, you are dead wrong. You keep using the recent rioters as an 'example'. How do you know they were atheists? They could have been a mix of many and no religions. Are you really saying that in the year 2011, you need a book to tell you the difference between right and wrong? Do people need a book to tell them not to kill, presumably, the answer is 'yes' by your rationale, and if that is true, if people need a book to tell them not to kill, then what does that say about their own responsibility and reasoning skills?
Wow, just wow. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Although it says this is an independent school, any individual or group that wishes to establish what would be deemed a 'school', should need to prove that they are worthy of educating the young. That starts with following the basic curriculum, and ends with NOT teaching the kind of utter BS, lies, and mental propaganda, that we can see here. 'Imported from the US', said the narrator. Very worrying.
People of the lower classes lack the sophistication to understand such notions as the "social contract" or whatever keeps athiesitic intellectuals from breaking the law. People of the lower classes need simple and authoritative answer to the big issues in order to maintain moral order. The recent rioting in Britain shows the dangers of atheism in the lower classes.
Why are you making a false assumption that the rioters in London were not only 'atheists', but that it is this 'atheism' which actually lead to such actions? And then all this talk about 'the classes', as if I have stepped in some sort of time machine. Again, you know almost nothing about the 'class' of those that were engaged in the London riots, indeed, only a short time before, there were student riots, serious one's, and many of those rioting were not from the 'lower class', at all. I'm sorry, but you have a very simplistic view of the World around us, and ignore all evidence that contradicts it. No offence etc.
