The "Party Platform Switch" LIE...

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  1. gfm7175

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    This thread is for addressing the lie that the two major political parties "switched platforms" at some unspecified point in time (supposedly occurring somewhere between the wide range of years of 1860 and 1936)

    First, the lie:

    The Republican and Democratic parties of the United States didn't always stand for what they do today.

    During the 1860s, Republicans, who dominated northern states, orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power, helping to fund the transcontinental railroad, the state university system and the settlement of the West by homesteaders, and instating a national currency and protective tariff. Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed those measures.

    After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for Black Americans and advanced social justice. And again, Democrats largely opposed these apparent expansions of federal power.

    Sound like an alternate universe? Fast forward to 1936.


    Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt won reelection that year on the strength of the New Deal, a set of Depression-remedying reforms including regulation of financial institutions, the founding of welfare and pension programs, infrastructure development and more. Roosevelt won in a landslide against Republican Alf Landon, who opposed these exercises of federal power.

    So, sometime between the 1860s and 1936, the (Democratic) party of small government became the party of big government, and the (Republican) party of big government became rhetorically committed to curbing federal power.


    Eric Rauchway, professor of American history at the University of California, Davis, pins the transition to the turn of the 20th century, when a highly influential Democrat named William Jennings Bryan blurred party lines by emphasizing the government's role in ensuring social justice through expansions of federal power — traditionally, a Republican stance.

    But Republicans didn't immediately adopt the opposite position of favoring limited government.


    Read more at https://www.livescience.com/34241-de...platforms.html



    Now, the truth:

    The "party switching" BS is a lie. It never happened. Demonkkkrats, since their founding in 1828, have always been the pro-slavery party. Republicans, since their founding in 1854, have always been the anti-slavery party.

    What is funny though is that the Demonkkkrat's own website starts off their own history in the 1920s with "women's suffrage". Why is that??
    Why do they wish to skip over a whole century of their own history?? Oh, that's right, they wish to:
    • skip over their history of supporting slavery...
    • skip over their opposition to Republicans ending slavery (and their subsequent formation of the KKK)...
    • skip over their opposition to giving reparations to slaves (you know, the people who ACTUALLY experienced damages during that time period)...
    • skip over the fact that Republicans formed and funded Howard University...
    • skip over Demonkkkrat opposition to making black people citizens...
    • skip over the fact that Republicans fought against the KKK that the Demonkkkrats founded...
    • skip over the fact that Demonkkkrats OPPOSED allowing black people to vote...
    • skip over the fact that REPUBLICANS elected the first black representatives and senators...
    • skip over the fact that DEMONKKKRATS implemented and supported Jim Crow Laws...
    • skip over the fact that REPUBLICANS were already supporting women's suffrage in the late 1800s, and that it was REPUBLICANS who led the women's suffrage movement...
    • skip over the fact that DEMONKKRATS continued to support the KKK (and its domestic terrorism) in the early 1900s...

    Then, there's more history from the 1920s and onward that the Demonkkkrat Party website conveniently leaves out, including:
    • supporting the lynching of blacks
    • continued KKK support
    • their mental enslavement of blacks via the "New Deal" economic benefits that they gave to blacks
    • their opposition to civil rights during the 1930s-60s
    • their internment of Japanese Americans
    • their continued support for segregation
    • the fact that a Demonkkkrat shot MLK
    • the fact that Demonkkkrats created the modern day welfare system
    ... and the list could go on and on and on...

    Meanwhile, the Republican Party website starts their history off right from the very beginning of 1854 when the Republican Party was formed, and truthfully speaks about their anti-slavery reasons for forming. It also gets into the fact that Republicans were the party to create national parks, have the first black governor, have the first woman representative, grant citizenship to the native tribes ("Native Americans"), have the first hispanic senator, have the first Asian-American senator, place the first woman on SCOTUS, and etc...


    The parties NEVER changed. The Demonkkrats are still the same hateful racist compulsive pro-slavery bigots today that they were at their formation, and the Republicans are still the same anti-slavery freedom-loving liberty-advocates that they were at their formation.
     
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    "... freedom loving ..."?

    Like when tried to limit freedom of who a person can marry?
    Like when they try to limit a woman's right to her own body?
    Like when they try to limit a person's freedom to vote from home?

    Like the Dems, a number of Republicans like the freedoms they want - not what other people want.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    You mean "defend the meaning and sanctity of marriage"? What freedom is not present?

    You mean "stand up against people who approve of the choice to kill a living human who has committed no crime nor has expressed any desire to die?" What freedom is not present?

    You mean "supporting election integrity"? What freedom is not present?
     
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    Here you go:

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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here you go. Read the OP and find out the truth about the parties switching. Time to educate yourself.
     
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    What better way to erase your sorted past and kill two birds with one stone accuse the other guys of exactly that what you did Saul alinsky would be proud
     
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    I already switched - the minute I started reading about all this hokum in the news about your phone listening to you and the technology spying on you. I realised a few things, firstly you can't trust a word coming out of the Russian blokes mouth about how he owns it all and he's the super cool spy master and you should join Marxist Socialism... That's all utter cobblers from his pure disinformation department. It what he's known for..

    So then I did some digging and asked around and found out why he's so furious that he was suddenly busy trying to blow up the Ukraine. It's because the Ukraine like America recognises that Marxist Communism represents the greatest theft of an entire nations wealth and so what do people in the west do about it, the answer is they wiretap the crap out of the connections to make sure there is no UN-noticed theft of public funds from bank accounts. An the party that does that, is the party he's trying to blow up - The Nazi Party!

    Because it turns out the internet is not Marxist Communism as claimed by his propaganda department, but in fact "FASCIST Socialist" - an apparently they do it to rub salt in the wound of the so called "Secret Police State" by showing people that in fact Nationalist Socialism was a failed experiment that was tried before (SS) - you see Jewish people are Khazars - weather they know it or not of the Khazaric and Ottoman empire - There actually all "TURKS!"

    An Russians are all Bolshevic Thieves that you can never trust - because of course the president of Russia pays all his taxes - he pays them all to himself!

    The Gastapo Secret Police or Stasi where mainly staffed full of black-shirts that where mostly Jewish guys and a lot of these guys have never forgiven the Marxists for stabbing them in the back and then blaming the whole holocaust on themselves. Many Jewish people don't know about the 60 Million Jewish that died in the Holocaust or if they do they blame Hitler, but most of them where killed during Stalin's revolution manned by Genrich Yagoda (the bloke that looks like Hitler) - but it does not stop the Marxists and Russians constantly trying to re-write history and the narrative that the evil Germans and other Jews did it all.

    Then of course you realise why he's so furious is because he considers anything remaining of the real Stasi or Gestapo ie: East German Austrian Police Service to be a threat to his little empire sand castle he's building for himself with his false narrative.

    If in doubt ask the Nazi Party why Trump, Netanyahu & Putin are pissed, because they just got a "Nazi Tax Audit!" from an east german bank, proving they tried to steal a load of money - that'll be why!
     
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    That entire post had nothing to do with the OP.

    We were talking about why people switched from Republican to Democrat and you went on a rant about Russia, Nazis and Trump and the post was hard to follow.

    Are you saying you switched to the Democratic party?
     
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    Of course because Democrats and the Democratic Party are the thin Blue Line that will not tolerate theft - there not "Communists" there Fascists and there is nothing shameful about Fascism when it comes to Paying your TAX!
     
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    FWIW: (For what its worth) I am a Democrat and have voted Blue my entire Life, my grandmother also voted Blue and my great grandfather was in the actual German Army! I voted Red Once! And after the spectacle we've all just witnessed I will never vote for the RED party again in my entire life!
     
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    Sounds like you align with left ideologies and beliefs. I just hope you do your own research. It's easy to be manipulated by the news today.
     
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    People who use memes to undersand the world never get it right.

    There are just shy of 60 African Americans representing the Democratic party in the current US Congress. How many African Americans have represented the Republican party in the entire history of the US Congress? How many of those were elected in the past 100 years?

    If you can get the answers to those questions correct then you will understand that the OP deliberately misrepresents American history to a HUGE degree.

     
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    DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!!!

    You are fully aware of what the Demonkkkrats have done. Here, take a Christocoin!

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    ???? No, they are actually actively PROMOTING theft. They want socialism. Socialism is theft of wealth. Demonkkkrats (and RINOs, who are Demonkkkrats who enjoy dressing up and playing make believe) want multinational corporations (and themselves) to possess most of the available wealth and they want the working class to be their slaves and to fight amongst themselves for the remaining table scraps of wealth.

    Demonkkkrat leadership, as far as I am concerned, are allies of Satan. Demonkkkrat voters, as far as I am concerned, are enablers of the Satanic globalist agenda.
     
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    Okay, then continue to be duped... continue to deny the truth... continue to vote for your own destruction...
     
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    You hit the nail on the head... Here, take a Christocoin for your awareness of the need for one to do one's own independent research because big media and big tech absolutely CANNOT be trusted to tell the truth. You are one of the few people still willing to do their own thinking rather than outsource it to big media and big tech.

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    Yes. So?

    A whole bunch of them. So?

    A few handfuls. So?

    How so, if I may ask?
     
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    If you can't be bothered putting in a little bit of effort to respond I don't see why I should put in any more to respond.
     
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    You're the one supposedly attempting to make a point. I am simply asking you what that point is... I can't give a effort-filled response when there is no point to respond to...
     
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    Here is another perspective on the issue:

    To belabor the obvious, the Republican Party has always been our more conservative political party, and the South has always been our most conservative region. But Southern conservatives were alienated from the GOP because of slavery and the Civil War. However much affinity they might have for Republicans on issues such as national defense or taxes, they were never going to formally join the party of Abraham Lincoln.
    And so America had a historical anomaly, in which conservative Southerners found themselves permanent members of our more liberal political party, the Democrats. It took a great deal of compromise and political skill to keep Northern liberals and Southern conservatives sufficiently allied to win the White House and control of Congress.

    The first cracks in this unholy alliance appeared as early as 1938. Franklin Roosevelt, irritated by the lack of support many Southern Democrats were giving to various New Deal programs, tried to purge some of them in the Democratic primaries. This effort failed miserably and Republicans made big gains thanks to Democratic disunity. The result further alienated Southern conservatives from Roosevelt.

    The strengthened Republicans greeted the alienated Southerners with open arms. While there was no possibility of them actually becoming Republicans, they were perfectly willing to form a conservative coalitionin Congress to block progressive legislation.

    Harry Truman’s ascension to the presidency in 1945 created another crisis for the South. Unlike Roosevelt—who mostly accommodated that region on racial issues—Truman acted, desegregating the military and the civil service, which had been segregated by Woodrow Wilson. At the same time, Northern liberals like Minneapolis Mayor Hubert Humphrey were pushing the Democratic Party to do more on civil rights.


    https://newrepublic.com/article/158320/western-origins-southern-strategy
     
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    Just a friendly reminder about the truth that the Democrat Party has always been the party of racism, hatred, violence, and division ever since their inception.
     
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    Well, there is some minor truth to it. Or at least some interesting comparisons can be made.

    see this thread:
    A Look at the Democratic Party of the Past

    With the Republican (of today) outlook looking similar to the view which the Democratic Party had in the long ago past, in certain ways. (not trying to draw any connection to slavery/racism here)

    Despite Republicans very much wanting to protect the Republican structure of government, they also very much embrace a more direct democracy type of ideology, in other ways, such as when it comes to rights and social duties.

    Of course, similar to the Democrats of the past, the Republican of today has an inclination to want to limit this more direct democracy approach to a certain type of voter.

    If Democrats are full of elitism, then Republicans are full of a more populist form of aristocracy.
    In some ways, neither truly wants a genuine liberal democracy or sees it as pragmatic.

    But the power structures in both ideologies are different. The Democrat view has every member of society expressing power in a direct, but indirect fashion, with a vanguard elite at the top to protect the people's interests and run things. The Republican view has more of a limited segment of society - although still a very broad base - acting in a direct but indirect fashion (in a completely opposite way from the Democrat view). Instead of the elitism and activist judges to serve as a buffer between people and government, they fashion the Republican style of government to act as the intermediary.
    There is a difference between socially direct and legally direct.

    The point is those ideologies in each party where mostly switched in the past.
     

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