The Patriot Act: Hold Trump and Kushner at Guantánamo Bay

The Trump family is known to have associated and business dealing with American mobsters, and the Russian Mafia for decades.

Now we have a mafia style murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and his henchmen. This is the same Saudi Arabia that the fifteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers came from to commit the deadliest terrorist attack in American history. The Bin Laden family were also business partners of the President’s family—the Bush family.

Saudi Arabia has spent $100 billion of dollars setting up radical Madrassas teaching Wahhabism throughout the Middle East. As a comparison, in the 20th Century the Soviet Communist only spent about $7 billion (1921-1991) to spread communism worldwide. Whenever the media reports on Saudi Arabia, it is completely without any historical context: it is a country that just hangs in the air. So History repeats itself...again...again...and again.

Kushner is known to have close contact with bin Salman. If Salman deliberately involved Kushner by contacting him, then Salman inoculated himself from prosecution when the murder is discovered. And Salman gets even better creds with Trump by making his Tarantino fantasies come to life. President Trump is already running interference for bin Salman and the Saudi government. There is massive amount of money exchanged between the Trump family and Saudi Arabia. The Bad attracts the Bad. How bad does it have to get?

The Patriot Act--passed by the Republicans, Democrats, and the American people—allows the jailing of persons conspiring with enemies of the American people. Clearly, Saudi Arabia is still our mortal enemy after 9/11, and the Trump Family is helping them and profiting!

 

The bodies are dropping. Saudi suspect in alleged Jamal Khashoggi killing has died after ‘suspicious traffic accident.’ And and now no one can asked why Lt. Meshal Saad M. Albostani, a lieutenant of the Saudi Royal Air Forces, killed Jamal Khashoggi. Darned it!!! You would think this was a mafia hit or something!

 

Saudi Arabia killing a Saudi Arabian. I truly have a hard time getting my self to care about this.

 

Following up on the first reports of Kushner's contact with Salman. I seems that the concerns of Kushner having security clearance now is a problem. The reports are that Kushner handed over a US Intelligence enemies list to Salman himself. Wow.

House Intel Dem claims Jared Kushner may have given Saudis an assassination US Intelligence ‘enemies list.’

 

I like what you're saying, but it almost sounds like you find the Patriot Act to be legitimate and good.

 

The Patriot Act was meant for American citizens, so those leaders who supported and passed this law should especially be held to their very own standards.

 

I'm confused. Why is the killing of a Saudi, our problem? It happened in Turkey (which if you were to look at a map, you'll notice it's not actually a part of the United States), it happened in an embassy that United States has nothing to do with, and it apparently was caused by people who are not US citizens.

Your fake outrage is noted.

 

Only he's OUR Saudi Arabian. You don't turn your back on your friends and especially not on those who have gone against their own countrymen because they believe in us and our ideals. Unless your name is Trump, of course

 

The only person I saw on his friend list is Bin Laden. I personally don't see any Bin Laden associate as a friend of the US.

 

My outrage isn't fake at all, I'm genuinely disgusted and repelled that anyone who calls themself an American would take the attitude that we should turn our backs on a person who sacrificed his life for us. You call yourself "Army Soldier" and I used to assume you might have been one at one time but I see I must have been mistaken as no one who has ever really been in any Army anywhere and anytime would ever have the attitude you are displaying here.

Let's say you actually were a real soldier at one time and you were pinned down behind enemy lines, when word comes that you and you men will be sacrificed, not because of some important strategic consideration, but because the enemy has made a really good deal for a lot of money with your general. How do you feel about that?

 

You assume US Army Soldiers give two shits about some non US citizen killed by his own country, in an embassy that we have nothing to do with.

You obviously have never once interacted with someone who has signed the dotted line.

But hey, you're the expert here. Let's go invade the Saudis!

 

Why is he mine? I get it he word in our press but he was still not a US citizen. Like our once great Secretary of State said "what does it matter now". And that was when US citizens were murdered on US soil at an embassy.

 

Oh gosh. I forgot. You're the one who said this man was an Intelligence Officer.

Hah. I can't believe I took the bait again

 

At the time of Khasoggi's association with him bin Laden was one of the more important of the Mujahadeen fighting the Russians in Afghanistan and being supplied mainly by the USA. Bin Laden wasn't our friend, as he would kill Americans as quickly as Russians even though we were helping him, but we were helping him. Khasoggi was a reporter who risked his life to get a story on the "Arab Afghani" and obtain useful information for us besides. It was a relationship that he was able to rely on all his life, until Trump came to power.

This will be probably be the greatest harm Trump will do us as it will last forever. Never again will anyone, anywhere trust an American and why should they? If we can elect such a craven coward and utterly faithless friend as our President once what is to keep it from happening again? Power in the modern world depends upon information and a great stream of it is now closed to us forever. America's days as a Global power have ended rather abruptly with this one incident

 

And "allegedly" he used top secret information that he received from our CIA!! If even part of this is true, Jared Kushner should be tried for treason to the United States at the very least.

 

That's really sad because this is a global problem not only a U.S. problem. We're talking about treason, murder, and conspiracy, what about that is not interesting to you?

 

Gr8 B8 M8

 

I said he was a pundit. Look it up. Pundits are not intelligence officers, they a unique and informal position in any nation's diplomatic corps and usually much more important.

No reason to worry about it now. I think any that we might have had, along with all of our foreign spies, have either abruptly abandoned us or are abandoning us at this minute. Just the revelation that so many people in this country have your attitude is enough to send anyone even considering whether they should help us fleeing in terror. I wonder how many thousands of American lives and trillions in American treasure this will cost us in the years to come.

Oh, and don't think I was trying to bait you, You're like the eels I used to catch instead of trout and were the main reason I gave up fishing.

 

No, you claimed he was an Intelligence Officer. Do I need to cite your comment? We've been through this before.

 

My problem with the OP is that much of it is true. Certainly everything in regards to KSAs past and current crimes. Attempting to segway that to some type of treason by Kushner via fake news of his handing over any kind of list is too unrealistic even for a Dan Brown novel. The Trumps are billionaires with substantial holdings in Saudi. Not a shocker they have close ties with them. KSA has been buying their way out of trouble and or to have influence on our government ( Clinton Foundation etc ) for decades, the OP is just another unfounded Trump and associates witchhunt. Very very loose too.

 

Oh gosh, I forgot you're a conservative and I asked you a straight question expecting an actual answer. Silly me.

 

Aleksander Ulyanov:

 

A pundit is a type of informal intelligence officer and that is common knowledge. They have been recognized as often very valuable sources of diplomatic information since the days of the British Raj, which is where their name comes from

 

No, an intelligence officer is someone who has graduated from one of the many intelligence OS resources centers/training facilities.

You don't understand what an Intelligence Officer is, and I find this humorous.

 

Thank you, I live to entertain