I make no bones about the fact that the Trump administration having culminated in the staging of an insurrection, whose express purpose was to overthrow our beloved democracy, infuriates me. The bad actors responsible should be held accountable. Our nation and its MSM are chock full of individuals who feel precisely as I do, including for instance Eric Holder former US Attorney General. How does this idea strike you all: the DOJ ought to initiate a civil action against Mark Meadows to recoup all the money that US taxpayers spent to pay his salary while he served as WH chief of staff. I mean, Meadows took an oath of office just like everyone else, right? He was collecting his salary to work for the public good and not for the personal benefit of Donald Trump's ego and ambitions. Yet Meadows abetted Trumps innumerable violations of the Hatch Act, and Meadows openly worked in collusion with the Trump reelection campaign, and Meadows focused his efforts intently on making the coup a reality. These were not the goals for which the country paid his exorbitant salary - so sue the guy! What say you? Any ideas?
Educate yourself... it was legal and the laws were followed.. the Trump Administration did nothing wrong. Electoral Count Act of 1887 Please show us Trump's text's... you keep babbling about Trump when we have seen only Meadow's texts that were faked by CNN, who strangely got a secret copy of Meadows text no one else has, and then turns around and edits them before they simply posts... not the texts, but their version of them.. You may want to do less CNN'ing.... and more checking into the truth...
Where would you want me to get news, OAN? Certainly not. They lie so severely that a court of law made them issue a recantation of their claim about the Georgia 2020 presidential race having been rigged. No: I get my news from the three pre-cable major networks, ABC, CBS and NBC.
Let me rephrase my post then....You may want to do less ABC, CBS and NBC'ing. So did ABC, CBS, or NBC cover the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and that it is a law that has been on the books for over a hundred years that was used in the wake of the disputed Hayes-Tilden election, spelling out a set of procedures to reduce the possibility of disputes over the electoral vote, and providing rules for Congress to follow in the event there is a dispute. Trump is not guilty of wrong doing... he followed this law. If the Democrats are so sure they have Trump doing something illegal.... Why are they trying to change this law now so "it doesn't happen again" ?
As soon as we can all collect the money for the 3 year fake Russia Russia Russia hoax Then collect the money for the fraud perpetrated on the federal court by falsifying information for FISA warrants in order to remove a sitting president Then collect the money for the two fake impeachment attempts I'm in.
Dead wrong. Mike Pence obeyed the electoral college law to the letter, by entertaining allowed disputes in the precise manner that the law specifies, i.e. when at least one lawmaker from the House plus one lawmaker from the Senate voiced objection to a State's slate. That's why Trump & company were so infuriated with Pence! Trump's gang of evil-doers intended for Pence to somehow unilaterally proclaim that the voting results from seven swing States were amiss. Trump's gang of evil-doers intended for Pence to somehow proclaim who would be the incoming President. I guess you haven't been paying close enough attention to the revelations surfacing over these last 16 months. Any efforts by Congress to fix the electoral college Act would be to reinforce its specificities and remove any ambiguities. That is the perennial difficulty with laws is that they were too ambiguous in their original wording and so could be too widely interpreted. Yo, Trump is the worst American leader ever, just like A. Schwarzenegger said.
It's really strange to stand on this side and read and hear people defend the criminals in this. They even sided with the people that mob attacked the Capitol police officers. Yet, the Orange Stain and them claim to be "for law and order". Then, he compounded it by openly praising a dictator while putting down his own POTUS and country. That's <censoring myself>.
Totally concur -- the MAGAtites are so moronic ...they greedily swallow whole whatever pablum Rupert Murdoch and company feed them. They are pathetic suckers; that's fer dang sure!
So did the acquittals by the grownups in the Senate who did not play the childish games of the Pelosi House.
No, no, that's not the way to do it. He's violating the law by ignoring a Congressional subpoena, so, prosecute him.
Nothing? https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Interim Staff Report FINAL.pdf Nothing? https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive
Wrong The Electoral Count Act of 1887 is a 140-year-old law that governs what Congress and the vice president should do in the case of any disputes about which candidate won in a state. They are rules for Congress to follow in the event some members of Congress want to challenge the validity of any state's electoral votes. ""Any efforts by Congress to fix the electoral college Act"" is a direct move by the Democrats move to change a law they don't like... as been stated, Trump did nothing illegal and followed the law as written... the Democrats don't like that he followed the law so they are going to fix it to their liking... Here is the draft.... oh my.... there that word draft is again... we had a meltdown over a draft written on abortion and all took it as the golden rule....here is the draft of the Democrats trying to propose the move to change the Electoral Count Act of 1887.... https://news.yahoo.com/senators-release-draft-bill-to-combat-election-subversion-224302083.html https://dailycaller.com/2022/02/01/...al-count-modernization-act-electoral-college/ https://www.king.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/ecmaonepager.pdf
The report only refers to the Electoral Count Act through a fake CNN opinion article...the law Trump followed and did nothing illegal... but they tried their best in the opinion piece to tie the unsigned undated memo to Eastman ... which describes the Electoral Count Act law to a "t" in a Jan. 6 scenario... it was a law that was on the books and legal.
Trump and his minions attempted to delay the certification. It's called 'seditious conspiracy' and 'subversion'. What Trump did was a lot of things before and up to 1/6. What I think the actual plan was to delay it past the deadline, which would throw the vote to the house, where repubs have the advantage, but I'm speculating on that point. I do believe it, however. "Fake opinion" is an oxymoron, FYI.
Then I am right, not wrong, because I said precisely the same in my post to which you are replying. People on this forum can read, you know. Face it: Trump is a felon a thousand times over. I figure the main cause of delay in DOJ not yet seeking indictments is because the case is so damnably complex and involves so many damnable cohorts in crime, yet prosecutors are permitted only one bite at the apple so they had better get the package just right the first time or risk cries of "Foul!". Or maybe it actually is just "all too much" for meek Merrick and he has thrown his hands up in the air. 'Hard to fault him if so, considering the magnitude of the monstrosity to be slain.
Thank you for your thoughts. I made my suggestion because a civil suit against Meadows can be brought without precluding other potentially criminal actions against him and coconspirators. And civil suits are easier to prosecute than the criminal kind, with fewer strict constraints and prohibitions. You know this of course.
Dead wrong: no one took it as "chiseled in stone" but rather they took it for what it is, filthy corruption in the nation's highest court; stupidity, amorality, betrayal and ignorance.
Civil suits can span a few years, so they are very ineffective in situations which beckon for quick action.
