The Religion of Atheism

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Atheism of course remains, by definition, not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport.

    Doesn't matter how many different threads you start on this moronic topic, it remains just as false as the first time you brought it up.
     
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    More Fallacy:

    Proof by assertion
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] I


    And no scholastic debate would be complete without this precious and detailed and exhaustive abstract of the NAKED ASSERTION FALLACY:

    More Proof by Assertion Fallacy:

    Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2]



    Did you know that a skunk always smells its own ass first?

    All you ever post is empty claims, that is a reality, and when I ask you to give us an explanation you duck out of the conversation.

    Your arguments are based purely upon fallacies!

    Argument by assertion is the logical fallacy where someone tries to argue a point by merely asserting that it is true, regardless of contradiction. While this may seem stupid, it's actually an easy trap to fall into and is quite common.


    This is not the same as establishing initial axioms on which to build a framework of logic or ideas.


    Li' Koko.... you know the one who neoatheists say post all that stupid stuff asks you the question:

    1) If the logical reconstruction of the neoatheist hypothesis is an insult how is that Li' Koko's fault?

    Does Li' Koko.... expect an on topic answer from you? Seriously?

    No because anyone can see you are posted nothing what so ever to support your claims.
     
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  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rather than bother to reply and risk another infraction for doing so...I will take the rare but useful step of using one of this forums great functions.

    Buh Bye:)
     
  5. Kokomojojo

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    well you wont win a debate with that style, sorry, this all your side can ever put out:

    Argument by Repetition Fallacy

    argumentum ad nauseam

    (also known as: argument from nagging, proof by [naked] assertion)
    Argument from Repetition:

    Argument from repetition refers to someone repeating a statement often in the hopes that the listener will begin to accept it as truth, instead of providing evidence.
    Argument From Repetition - Definition & Examples | Logical Fallacies

    https://www.logicalfallacies.org/argument-from-repetition.html

    Argument from Repetition:

    Argument from repetition refers to someone repeating a statement often in the hopes that the listener will begin to accept it as truth, instead of providing evidence.

    Argument From Repetition - Definition & Examples | Logical Fallacies
    https://www.logicalfallacies.org/argument-from-repetition.html



    We Judge, Offend and Insult Ourselves by our own Actions
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    We judge, offend and insult ourselves by our own actions. Awareness of this self-imposed behavior is necessary. Being shown the errors and wrongs of our current ways is a blessing to help us Evolve Consciousness. The darkness can be brought up to the light for conscious awareness to choose the Wisdom of Right-Action over the foolishness of wrong-action. Truth is Love. Love is Truth. Truth unites. Lies divide. Embrace Truth. Care for Truth.

    See? Did I make the call or did I make the call, you bugged out because you have nothing to back up your premises.


    All I am trying to point out and asking is that people make some resemblence of a valid arguments instead of constantly puking their FALLACIES all over the place only to run away because the puke stinks.

     
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  6. rahl

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    since I am demonstrably correct, it wouldn't make sense to post a different refutation of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Now what? reported me and going to try to cheat the system since you whined about me merely logically constructing the neo atheist position then reported it and insulted me in the process? Pot calling kettle black much?

    Doesnt do you any good to delete it after the fact, these posts are all numbered you know "tecoyah, post: 1069382928, member: 5145"
     
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  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Oh? So where is it? All I see is more of the same naked assertion with an inapplicable quip.
    Argument from Repetition:
    Argument from repetition refers to someone repeating a statement often in the hopes that the listener will begin to accept it as truth, instead of providing evidence.
    Argument From Repetition - Definition & Examples | Logical Fallacies
    https://www.logicalfallacies.org/argument-from-repetition.html
     
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    since I am demonstrably correct, it wouldn't make sense to post a different refutation of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I dont see a demonstration, only imagination.
    I do see:

    Argument from Repetition:
    Argument from repetition refers to someone repeating a statement often in the hopes that the listener will begin to accept it as truth, instead of providing evidence.

    Argument From Repetition - Definition & Examples | Logical Fallacies
    https://www.logicalfallacies.org/argument-from-repetition.html
    with no demonstration what so ever.
     
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    since I am demonstrably correct, it wouldn't make sense to post a different refutation of your claim. Which is why we keep pointing out that atheism, by definition, is not a religion. Just like not playing baseball isn't a sport.
     
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    Abstinence is a sex position.
     
  13. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually it is a "Lack of Sex" position.
     
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    Damnit, I knew it was a religion.
     
  15. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    See tecoyah

    thats all neoatheists have is quips and snarky remarks and ad nauseum repetition of nonsequiturisms.

    This isn proof its drivel:

    When I have to come out here to teach people arguments and supporting them 101, you wonder why these alleged debates end up into a pissing contest? Neoathesits simply get up on a soap box and blather away!

    Rahl for instance simply continues to repeat ad nauseum 'by definition' but no explanation what so ever how it applies as proven by his inability to explain it. PLONK

    So I will try to help educate you all how to support your arguments so people dont continue to dismiss them out of hand as they have been.

    How to construct and write an argument 101 with supporting facts and evidence.

    About 172,000,000 results (0.6 seconds)

    Structuring arguments
    The Structure of Arguments. Abstract: The concept of an argument is discussed together with the related concepts of premiss, conclusion, inference, entailment, proposition, and statement. I. We have seen that one main branch of philosophy is epistemology and one main branch of epistemology is logic.
    The Structure of Arguments - Philosophy Home Page

    What are the supporting arguments?
    Think of supporting arguments as mini-papers with mini-thesis statements (sometimes called main ideas). Supporting arguments “back up” your thesis or help “prove” it—to the extent that it can truly be proven. In the following essay, the main idea of each supporting argument is bolded and underlined. supporting arguments - Sterling College
    https://www.sterling.edu/documents/academics/SupportingArguments.pdf

    What is a support for a claim?
    A supporting claim is any argument that, if accepted, will make it easier to prove the primary claim. Sometimes, this involves making a distinct argument that only helps to prepare an audience. More often, it involves establishing a piece of fact (also see evidence) or advocating for a judgment of value.

    Supporting Claim - Writing Arguments
    https://www.writingarguments.com/supporting-claim.html

    How do you support evidence?
    Use sources against each other, as if they were experts on a panel discussing your proposition. Use quotations to support your assertion, not merely to state or restate your claim. In order to use evidence effectively, you need to integrate it smoothly into your essay by following this pattern: State your claim.

    What are the supporting details in a paragraph?
    A paragraph contains facts, statements, examples-specifics which guide us to a full understanding of the main idea. They clarify, illuminate, explain, describe, expand and illustrate the main idea and are supporting details.
    MAIN IDEAS AND SUPPORTING DETAILS DEFINITION OF A ...
    manoa.hawaii.edu/undergrad/learning/wp.../MAIN-IDEAS-AND-SUPPORTING.pdf

    What is the structure of the argument?
    The Basic Structure of Argument. – Basically, argument is a claim defended with reasons. It is composed of a group of statements with one or more statements (premises) supporting another statement (conclusion). – A sentence declaring something that can be true or false.
    The Basic Structure of Argument | Critical thinkers' world
    https://criticalthinkersworld.wordpress.com/the-basic-structure-of-argument/

    How do you use evidence to support your claim?
    Standards for Evidence

    Make sure your evidence is appropriate to the paper you are writing.
    Make sure the evidence does, in fact, support your argument or your claims.
    Tell your reader why this evidence supports your argument/claims.
    Make sure you have an appropriate amount of evidence.
    https://www.lib.uoguelph.ca/get-assistance/writing/writing.../using-evidence-effectively

    What are supporting sentences? - Learn American English Online
    https://www.learnamericanenglishonline.com/Write_in.../WL8_supporting_sentences.ht...
    In linguistics, an argument is an expression that helps complete the meaning of a predicate, the latter referring in this context to a main verb and its auxiliaries. ... Most predicates take one, two, or three arguments. A predicate and its arguments form a predicate-argument structure.

    What are the basic parts of an argument?
    So, there you have it - the four parts of an argument: claims, counterclaims, reasons, and evidence. A claim is the main argument. A counterclaim is the opposite of the argument, or the opposing argument. A reason tells why the claim is made and is supported by the evidence.
    Parts of An Argument: Claims, Counterclaims, Reasons, and Evidence ...
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    What is adequate evidence?
    Adequate evidence means information sufficient to support the reasonable belief that a particular act or omission has occurred.

    What does explanation of evidence mean?
    something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever. Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.

    Developing a Thesis and Supporting Arguments - Butte College
    www.butte.edu/departments/cas/tipsheets/style_purpose_strategy/thesis.html
    DEVELOPING A THESIS AND SUPPORTING ARGUMENTS ... and prove it in a clear, appropriate, and lively manner; To teach you to structure your thinking.

    How to Structure an Argument in Your Essay
    https://study.com/academy/lesson/how-to-structure-an-argument-in-your-essay.html
    You wouldn't simply state that students understand their peers' explanations and offer that as support for your thesis without providing evidence to back up your ...
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    An argument is a reasoned opinion supported and explained by evidence. ...
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    As you can see no one on your side has provided any evidence what so ever to prove your arguments are anything more than mitigated bullshit and have no basis what so ever, worse because they arent even real arguments, just smart assed quips for the most part.

    Posting the same nonsequitur lines ad nauseum without explaining how they get to that point ends up being a comedy show, and is self insulting.



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    THEN ****ING DEMONSTRATE IT ALREADY!!!!

    as we will soon see, instead of posting arguments, neoatheists in the following posts will prove they have nothing but belches and beer farts confirming every point I made in spades!
     
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    Do you believe that, Is that a religion
     
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    Everything I type becomes religion due to my divine presence being involved in its creation. Ice cream however carries its own divinity and does not need teeth.
     
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    But I have a problem with race, strawberry claims supremacy.
     
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    Of course it isnt. Let me explain what the OP is attempting:

    As he is unable to elevate his own, magical nuttery out of the muck of delusion, obfuscation, and just plain insanity, he is only left one choice to get himself a seat at the table with rational people: he has to attempt to drag down their paradigms into the nasty muck where his magical nonsense resides.

    Unable to elevate his own ideas with any reason or evidence, he can only hope to debase other ideas, making them nearly as worthless as his own. It's akin to burning down your neighbor's house, to make your own house look better, because your own house looks like **** and you know you can't do anything to make it look better.
     
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    Well put.

    Kudos to you.
     
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    We can take these alleged debates to your play ground.

    Atheism by definition is a religion, atheism isnt a religion like water isnt wet.

    I lack belief in nothing, I'm a theist

    What do you mean prove it? Ok here:

    Atheism by definition is a religion, atheism isnt a religion like water isnt wet.


    I lack belief in nothing, I'm a theist

    There I demonstrably proved it!
    Oh? Want more proof?

    Atheism by definition is a religion, atheism isnt a religion like water isnt wet.

    I lack belief in nothing, I'm a theist

    proving **** neo-atheist style!

    its really easy to drop the debate standards to juvenile
     
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