The rest of the story... The REAL reason Hur declined to charge President Joe Biden.

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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    It is a "No Brainer" Pun intended.

    Because it would be a moot point... Presidents can't be prosecuted.. Biden is above the law.. he has presidential immunity... it has nothing to do with the national security classified documents Joe had....have we forgotten the past and the Mueller outcome when he knew very well he could not indict a setting president.... Hur is just saving Joe from any further scrutiny of breaking the law and being publicly scorned for doing so.. How would it look if a presidential candidate Joe Biden was to be removed from office by Congress and then prosecuted by Hur?... How would it look if Joe was in jail and ran for president.... Congress MUST remove Joe from office in an impeachment before anything Hur digs up can be used to prosecute Joe... Just more double standard we are seeing in our system... And the Democrat Senate is not about to remove Joe Biden from office.. so he can never be charged criminally.

    We all know Joe is incapable of running our country or withstanding an impeachment for having National Security classified documents...
     
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    Biden can be charged after he leaves office. If Trump wins, I'm sure he'll see that that happens...lol
     
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    Presidents can't be prosecuted.. Biden is above the law.. he has presidential immunity... Joe Biden must be removed by Congress before any prosecution can proceed..
    It is all overseen by Garland... he is not about to be letting Joe Biden get anywhere near any prosecution... We see this with Hur's findings and Durham's finding...

    We seen this very same behavior in a previous case when a special prosecutor uncovered the failed coup attempt by a setting president and the future president when they tried treason to overthrow our government using the federal government to unseat a sitting president when they knowingly participated in a failed coup and failed insurrection by allowing a scheme using the federal government and it's agencies... neither was Obama removed from office nor was VP Biden removed for participating in this treasonous act against our government. Durham wrote a report that would have been shelved by Garland... there is nothing more criminal than what Durham uncovered on Obama and Biden.

    All documented... and undeniable.... The Obama Whitehouse was in on it...
    Strange how our Republican special prosecutor Mueller missed this.... maybe he did not do a very good job of investigation...
    ""Former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s “plan” to tie the Trump campaign to Russia as a means of distracting the public from her private email server scandal before the 2016 election, according to newly declassified documents.""
    https://news.yahoo.com/dni-releases-cia-documents-hillary-204337457.html
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-brennan-notes-cia-memo-clinton
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/0...ral-on-clinton-campaigns-collusion-operation/

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    Ghost writer to the rescue.. he deleted audio recoding

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    Weaponize the DoJ, then?
     
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    He will do it "under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution".. then everything is OK...
     
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    Probably better for a President to simply not be involved in these kind of prosecutions. Like Biden.
     
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    You can never claim that... Joe Biden set the precedent you are now not allowing Trump to follow..
    Biden threatened Trump....
    Biden has weaponized the DOJ (through legitimate efforts of the Constitution).. it is one promise he has kept...
    Listen to the man words... communist dictators say those sort of things
    "We have to demonstrate that [Trump] will not take power if he does run. Making sure he under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution, does not become the next president again."
    https://rumble.com/v34w72i-joe-bide...overnment-to-keep-trump-from-running-aga.html
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    "under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution"

    He could be saying anything.
     
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    Trump, Biden and Pence were not charged for having the documents

    Trump was charged for not giving them back when found and requested repeatedly - but none of the 3 were charged with having them

    I do think the gov needs a better system for keep track of who has classified info though and following up on it when not returned - maybe hire some librarians
     
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    How did the NARA know immediately what President Trump had but did not know what Vice President Biden had after 7 years?
     
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    Interesting.... Kathy Chung testimony..

    Where is the DOJ investigation into this?

    That then-White House Counsel Dana Remus sought to recover documents from the Penn Biden Center office in May 2022, months before the reported early November discovery of the records by the president’s lawyers. “This story does not begin in November 2022, as represented by President Biden’s attorney,” Comer said. Biden’s lawyers say they initially found classified documents on Nov. 2 while clearing out his former office at the Penn Biden Center.

    “Today we learned that when Joe Biden left the vice presidency, boxes containing classified documents, vice presidential records, and other items were stored in three different locations around the Washington, DC, area, including an office near the White House, an office in Chinatown, and eventually the Penn Biden Center,” the lawmaker said. “At some point, the boxes containing classified materials were transported by personal vehicles to an office location,” Comer went on.

    https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/biden-aide-kathy-chung-refutes-classified-docs-locked-closet-spin/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...nt-on-transcribed-interview-with-kathy-chung/


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    The Ministry of Truth has already been weaponized. Given that America did just fine without one for most of the 19th century, I would be fine with disbanding it, HUD, Department of Education, etc.... Basically any department that the Democrats use as patronage network for their voters should be annihilated.
     
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    Trump has just recently said there would be no revenge. Not sure what all that means, but for the benefit of the nation- if we get some competence and sanity back in government, we should focus on fixing the problems we face and building a better future.

    Everyone has hostilities over the shenanigans of the past, and the people who create them. But I question if we have the time to seek retribution. What we must do is make sure those behaviors stop, so the future can be better. The way to keep things right- is to remove what's wrong. That can be policies, people, laws, and more. Coming out of the Biden disaster- if we don't keep our focus on the future we could be bogged down until there is no future.
     
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    What about the office of President being used to gin up voters. Get rid of that too?
     
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    I think the answer to a great many problems is to require people in office to do the job they were hired to do- and to have someone besides themselves decide if they have.
    In the private side, if you don't work for the benefit of the company that hires you, you get fired. If you cheat, you get fired. If you don't perform and produce quality work, you get fired.
    Everyone of these politicians- are employees of the people. The politics they endorse may be up to the people they represent that voted them in, but their ethical conduct is the business of every citizen in the country. They work for us- all of us.

    The voters can fail to re-elect if they are unhappy with the politics, or even go to recall. But the people as a whole should be able to reject those without honor or ethics, and in short order.
    That would quickly improve the quality of our politics. Do your job by the rules, or you lose your job. It's not too much to ask, all the rest of the nation understands it.
     
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    Sounds fine. Except they have a contract and a tenure. The voters decide at the end of this tenure.
     
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    That's what we all believe. However, there is a way to change that. George Santos recently became the third congressman to be expelled since the civil war. Congress has the power to clean it's own house- but can't use it, because it doesn't have the right structure. That can be changed quite easily, so that memberswho refuse to live up to their oath can be sent packing- without starting partisan wars-
    And Honor returned to Congress. Just imagine what that would do for the nation. Members of Congress DO have a "contract", with the people- to do their job. And, they are employees. They can be fired.

    We're working on it. A lot people have, for a long time- but we are there. The plan is complete. Next week, it goes public. Yesterday, we finished preparing personal letters announcing the movement to all 535 members of congress. News media announcements and press release follow. I'll be posting it here as well. No politics involved, totally non-partisan.
     
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    Interesting.... Biden had materials on national security and military and foreign policies...

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    Jack Smith has yet to establish a motive for Trump keeping alleged classified papers.

    Biden clearly demonstrated a motive of profit with his book. Illegally keeping classified material and planning to profiteer from it when he drafted his book… this selective prosecution puts into question dozens of historical DOJ convictions of espionage and income forfeiting.





     
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    To say Biden cooperated and Trump didn’t is absurd, Trump was President and had the ability to declassify so he has an argument to make, Biden stole classified documents out of a SCIF he had no right to, willfully shared Top Secret information and had no argument whatsoever.
     

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