The sun

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  1. Jakob

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    What kind of fuel are you speaking of? Coal, petrol gasoline?
     
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    If it is of interest solar flare activity is cyclical. It follows an 11 year cycle. Best of luck.
     
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    Just not in any way you can demonstrate, Mr. Mere Assertion.
     
  4. Bowerbird

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Belongs in the humour section
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    Don’t worry - if we run out of fuel we will just have to get the turtle to fly closer to a new sun!
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    I give the sun two thumbs up!
     
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    Lols! Don’t you know that the world is flat and rests on the back of four elephants standing on a turtle?
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    Apparently he arrived at his fear by looking at the sun and concluding that it was out of fuel. I hope he didn't look at it for very long with his naked eyes.
     
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    More like living in the basement only interacting with 4chan lols!

    Sorry but he HAS to be pulling our legs!

    Still like the Terry Pratchett version though -
    The world existed because every probability stream had to have a far end

    Terry was wise in many ways

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    Maybe the divine light from the Trump aura will save us.

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  13. Bowerbird

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    Lols! Stop making fun! :p :p :p
     
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    The Sun's climate influence can be demonstrated by research.
    Analysis Of 120 Years Of Data Show Clear Solar Influence On Rainfall In Germany.
    By P Gosselin on 22. March 2024

    At Klimanachrichten, Dr. Ludger Laurenz looks how solar influence on rainfall in Germany.

    Precipitation patterns linked to the 22-year Hale cycle.

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    While droughts and periods of heavy precipitation in Germany are often blamed on CO2 climate change by the media and pseudo-experts, Laurenz sees a clear link to the 22-year solar Hale cycle. This can be detected in many historical weather data series.

    To search for the solar influence on the annual precipitation sum, he used the data from the DWD dating back to 1903.

    Finding: “Different precipitation trends are repeated every 22 years. This indicates solar influence.”

    According to Laurenz, “The exceptionally high level of precipitation totals in the last year and the first two months of 2024 is very likely due to solar influence.”

    Moreover, he found: “The evidence of solar influence on precipitation totals is even better if periods over the turn of the year are selected instead of the classic annual period from January to December, such as the 12-month period from July to June of the following year or the winter half-year. The solar influence on the precipitation sum is much stronger in the winter half-year than in the summer half-year.”

    The solar magnetic cycle (Hale cycle) lasts approximately 22 years and can be detected in solar physical measurement data (Chapman et al. 2021) and the search for solar influence is based on Chapman’s formulations.

    With the change from one Hale cycle to the next, the sun starts a new program of activity within a few weeks that repeats itself in the same pattern approximately every 22 years. Every single month and every single year of the 22-year Hale cycle is characterized by a specific solar activity pattern that affects the Earth’s atmosphere and creates weather trends.

    Ms. Veretenenko’s latest publication from the Loffle Institute in Saint Petersburg has described the mechanism of the transformation of varying solar activity via the stratosphere to the troposphere and thus our weather.

    Using the start years of the Hale cycles, it is easy to prove solar influence in historical weather data, Larenz shows.

    To do this, the weather data from the same approx. 22-year cycle phases, starting with the respective start years of the Hale cycles, are stacked on top of each other. The result:

    Every 22 years, extremely high and low annual precipitation totals accumulate in the same phases of the 22-year Hale cycle.

    Full report in German at Klimanachrichten
     
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    Question - are you oblivious to the OP or just desperate to push a fake narrative??

    **** newsflash**** We have known about the influence of the solar cycle on climate for oh, about one hundred years give or take
     
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    And yet you ignore it.
     
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    And what exactly is fake about claiming that the sun can influence the climate of the planets?
     
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    Who “ignores” it? science?

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1674987123001172

    NASA discusses it
    https://science.nasa.gov/earth/climate-change/what-is-the-suns-role-in-climate-change/

    There are chapters on it but keep in mind that the IPCC only really discusses issues that have had significant change in the underpinning science
    https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_SYR_SPM.pdf
    https://www.ipcc.ch/apps/njlite/srex/njlite_download.php?id=6351
    https://archive.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch1s1-4-3.html

    stop believing the conspiracy rubbish about science ‘ignoring” or “hiding” factors. We don’t have to prove 2+2 = 4 every time we add something up!!:roll:
     
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    I worry too, according to the science sun will run of fuel in less than 5 billion years. Probably I will retire then, but I worry about my children!
     
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    Like:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail

    That link shows solar sail technology that has been used in our space flights - along with what it could do.
     
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    Dig. Deep.

    Geothermal energy will keep the planet warm, for longer the deeper you get. It can be used to generate electricty which can power HID lights for growing crops to replenish food and oxygen.

    If life underground isn't appealing, it would probably be more efficient to find (or terraform) a planet already orbiting a healthy star, than it would be to try to 'tow' a star (or sufficient fuel to replinish Sol) back here. That is unless you have access to technology that the rest of us aren't aware of...

    All that being said ...what makes you think Sol is going to run out of gas in the next couple decades?
     
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  22. Jack Hays

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    It is interesting that you would cite a paper authored by Scafetta because he is firmly in the AGW skeptic camp and his work is among that ignored or downplayed by the IPCC and the "consensus" climatologists. You have made my point.
     
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    You're still suggesting there is a conspiracy going on.

    You can't pick a scientist and suggest he/she is either right about everything or wrong about everything.
     
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    There's no conspiracy -- merely a herd staying together for protection.
     
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    So, way too many scientists disagree with you, and your response is to call them a herd??
     
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