the true history of israel and palestine.

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  1. Mefarsem

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TI5Mwyhzhg&feature=related"]history of Israel Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

    i've found this video, and it explains exactly the history of that place in the last 100 years.
    please, do not act like a kid and just say israeli propaganda, cause this is the truth and only the truth and there is no propaganda, just helping people that got brainwashed.

    have fun.
     
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    Why don't they just form hostile soccer teams and vent their frustrations on the field.

    Who needs guns?
     
  3. Margot

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    Saudi Arabia had no army in 1948 and didn't attack Israel..

    You need to work on your facts.
     
  4. Mefarsem

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    I think the combination of the words 'Mefarsem' and 'true' speaks for itself. The Office seems to be having a busy Monday, doesn't it?
     
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    Israeli propaganda machine couldn't post a more bias video.
     
  7. Mefarsem

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    nah, theres no lies, read history books.
     
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    also saudi arabia attacked but,
    it doesnt really matter, look at the rest of the video.

    5 or 6 isnt the main thing o.o
     
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    >>>>EXCERPT
    <<<<EXCERPT FOR CLARITY<<<<<

    Indeed, with all due respect, Margot should check her facts! "Five of the seven countries of the Arab League at that time, namely Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, backed by Saudi Arabian and Yemenite contingents invaded[96]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

    Rev A
     
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    Except neither Yemen nor Saudi Arabia attacked.

    http://www.middleeastinfo.org/library/1948_/1948-05-02- ArabArmiesConvergeonPalestine.html
     
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    The events of the 67 war are well documented. Egypt blockaded the waterways which was an act of war before the war began. That alone would justify Isreal in attacking those that did the blockade.


    DISPUTED TERRITORIES- Forgotten Facts About the We
    Feb 1, 2003 ... In 1967, Israel fought a desperate war of self-defense and despite dire odds, won
    . .... It is worth noting that Jordanian and Egyptian rule came about as the ....
    Traditionally, under international law, a blockade is considered an act of war. .... "
    freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;" ...
    www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0n1m0

    Rev A
     
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    You forget that Nasser immediately contacted the US and UN to open negotiations........... Israel attacked Egypt immediately.

     
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    Yep ! Its straight from The Israeli Ministry of Truth .


    Just like the story abt a 7 yr old son . :rolleyes:
     
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    If they tell a lie often enough, people don't even question..

    The failure of the Arab Liberation Army and Quwwatli’s moment of truth

    The Arab Liberation Army was hastily assembled. The volunteers came from a number of different countries. By the end of January 1948, some 3,800 mujahids were receiving rudimentary training at the army base in Qatana. Some had already slipped over the frontier into Palestine. Their numbers included 1,100 Iraqis, 700 Palestinians, 100 Egyptians, 40 Jordanians, 40 Yugoslavs, and 1,800 Syrians. Much of the fighting was done by the ethnic and religious minorities as well as the rural poor. In September 1948, for example, the population of the Qatana camp was 2,242 of whom 605 were Kurds, 320 “Syrians,” 750 Alawites, 210 Bedouins, 65 North Africans, 185 Palestinians, 107 Hawranis.[72] The staff officers preferred to use Circassian and Kurdish units as shock troops instead of Arabs because of their “personal bravery,” as one officer explained.[73]

    http://www.crethiplethi.com/syria-a...lamic-countries/syria-islamic-countries/2010/

     
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    the true history of israel and palestine.


    In order for anyone to measure what the 'truth' of the matter is, they need to observe both sides of the argument.

    i aint going to dig is up but try a search on how palestinians and the people of the arab lands (surrounding communities) view the divide.

    So for this debate to be on equal footing, perhaps a few should post up venues representing the views from the people who live there, versus just material created by the wingnuts.

    The first and foremost fact each should remember is that 'god' did not give people a 'land', no matter which side of the argument.

    And no one has a right to a land based on what happened in stories of a religious text.

    I claim, "what is real is what is true to the whole of existence" and this whole earth is what the conscious mind can comprehend as HOME or literally the HOMELAND to all of us, equally.


    ie... the idiots want some stupid temple and some stupid lil' hill for their sacraficing.........................

    I want mankind to comprehend what is real
     
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    face the truth, its sad to see that many ppl know wrong things about the history.
     
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    Margot - the (revolting) REV is quoting from Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs MFA - its gotta be true - HAHAHAHA .


    A christian Zionist's closed mind is like a closed book - a block of wood.
     
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    Mef-arse-m ,

    I'd rather you tell us the story abt yr 7 yr old son .


    ...
     
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    The Arab liberation army never actually came together.. Too many different agendas and they were suspicious of each other as well.

    That's why neither Saudi Arabia nor Yemen sent armies.

    Its like the lie about a land without people for a people without land.. or there were no "Palestinians" before 1964.

    The Zionists have been lying to their children for two generations now.
     
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    You can't post an Israeli government link and hope retain any shred of credibility. Some impartiality might help your cause.
     
  22. Marlowe

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    American Christian Zionists dont know anything else .


    According to them , Israeli Governments Ministry of Truth - are the most authorative sources .

    "You anti-Shemite " :)
     
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    Israel claims it wants to maintain peace in the region but has held a continuous blockade of the Gaza strip's coast. This is an act of war not peace.

    Shame the Gazan's don't have the might to enact Israeli justice on the Israelis.
     
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    israel continue because of the iranian smuggling.
    they bring weapons to terrorist organizations in gaza through the sea.
     
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    Don't you care that you have been discredited? Time your shift ended anyway.
     

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