The Trump administration is privately estimating the daily coronavirus death rate will double

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    in the next month (title cont'd)

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-privately-estimating-daily-165600753.html

    Those internal documents also expect the daily case count to increase from ~25,000 a day to ~200,000 per day. And now we see why Trump has started to revise his estimates for deaths from ~60,000 total to ~100,000. It won't be long before Trump touts less than 200,000 as a success.

    You view the CDC models here: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...7319f4a55fd0ce5dc9/optimized/full.pdf#page=11

     
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    And the White House response is that "Those are not the numbers used by the Pandemic Response team".

    They're IGNORING their own Center for Disease Control Agency...because....why?
     
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    On Fox yesterday Dr. Deborah Birx said the number’s were always 100k to 250k.
    I remember when it was “contained at five”

    Several states that are “re-opening” had their highest numbers of new infections and / or deaths over the weekend
     
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    This is precisely why the IHME model roughly double its estimated total deaths. Because States are opening up too soon.
     
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    What is too soon?
    IncreaseInOpioidDeathsPerPCT-UE.jpg

    With what we know about the virus, the choice is whether to lose vibrant young and middle aged people to overdose deaths and suicide or isolate the old and otherwise vulnerable people to prevent COVID-19 fatalities. Seems like an easy choice.
     
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    People in assisted living Facilities do not live in a bubble. They have care workers and staff that runs the buildings, the laundry,the kitchen.

    They are EXPOSED to the outside world and if the outside world is loaded with infected people...they are going to have infections. This thing is incredibly contagious
     
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    So destroy the economy for EVERYONE to the save the extreme few? Good strategy. There won’t be assisted living facilities when no one can pay to keep people there, unless the govt will just magically pay for it all with money plucked from the magical money bush. This can obviously go on forever because money generation is infinite, isn’t it Lesh? We can all be millionaires together if they print enough. /wall
     
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    This virus ensures that there are no easy choices.
     
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    Sooner or later you are going to accept the fact you are going to be exposed to the Chinese virus. As you age you are also likely to contract other diseases.
    Life is dangerous and thousands of posts trying to deny that fact are a waste of time.
    Do your best to protect yourself mentally as that can be far more destructive than the Chinese virus in 99% of the population.
     
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    So your take is that we will lose more to suicide than we will to cv-19? I don't think so even if you weight a middle aged persons life as more valuable (which you clearly believe). I any event, if the jones town type event that you are predicting comes to fruition maybe it will take more trump supporters. Then we can re-start the GOP with level headed clear thinkers. One can hope for a silver lining.
     
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    The scariest thing about COVID-19 is how little we know about it. It's suspected to have been in CA for much longer than anyone knew. But, we don't even know that because antibody test quality has come into question. We suspect asymptomatic spread is the most dangerous aspect of the disease, but no one can tell us how contagious the disease is in an asymptomatic carrier or how long an asymptomatic carrier can shed the virus.

    We do know that shutting down the economy is destroying lives and ending some, the longer this goes on the more deaths, self-inflicted and accidental drug overdoses.
     
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    Has anyone walked you through reading a chart? I said nothing about Jonestown. Look at the chart I posted that only includes how opioid overdose deaths increase with increasing unemployment. If you need help with that, let me know.
     
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    The NY Times made the prediction, not the Trump Administration. The purpose was to push the lie that Trump doesn't care about people ,,, you know the normal crap socialists pull out when they need to beat a Republican in an upcoming election.

    You may recall that the reason for the lockdown was so hospitals would not be overwhelmed. In the past few weeks, Trump has built and supported states in building a scalable infrastructure to test, track, and treat COVID-19 cases. He has scaled up our ability to produce PPE that the Obamacare medical device tax outsourced to China. We have no problem with hospitals, problem solved. Not sure how we bring back pharmaceutical production that was outsourced by previous administrations? All we know is that in 2015 and before Trump raised a red flag on our stupidity in selling our country to the Communist Chinese.
     
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    I hope I have been fully exposed to COVID. That means I'm either infected with no symptoms (good) or immune (better)..

    I'd be stunned if I haven't been..

    Someday, I assume somebody will request to test me and my equally currently unaffected family.

    Then we'll know for sure...
     
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    That is a lie....Trump genuinely cares about 1 people....
     
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    Uhh....no. The NY Times did not "make the prediction." The CDC did.
     
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    If you post the link to the CDC announcement, I'll buy it. Until then, it's no different than unnamed sources claiming that Trump colluded with Russia.
     
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    How many time have you talked to Trump one on one in private?
     
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    More liberal hate on full display ^
     
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    Just like Russia Collusion. Johns Hopkins said the numbers were not meant to be predictive of opening up the economy. They were asked by FEMA to run a bunch of scenarios.

    You've been lied to again and fell for the deception hook, line and sinker:
    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...ocuments-not-meant-for-covid-19?userid=487416
     
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    The article includes a link to the PDF from the CDC.
     
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    It actually does note that the model is based on a relaxation of pandemic control measures.
     
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    Dude... he's an open book.... he cannot even fake caring about anybody but himself, and a few of his direct family (the non fat ones).

    I didn't have to meet Charlie Manson one on one to know he was deranged...
     
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    Keep pumpin those blowup Hulk Covid muscles.

    You swallowed the "millions of dead" garbage hook, line and sinker and now you're just trying to rationalize it.
     
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    The original estimate was 200,000 to 1.7 million.
     

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