The Truth about Chris Christie by (another) Jersey Guy

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  1. ProgressivePatriot

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    I have NO idea what you're talking about. Could you please be a little more cryptic? The double negative does not help either
     
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    In short, he has not done anything any other politician has not done,,and some much more.
     
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    Stay tuned
     
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    Apparently, some hold as an article of faith that all politicians sabotage the flow of traffic over the George Washington Bridge in political vendettas.
     
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    I guess, the point I have been trying to make is the fear the left has of this man. It is not that they think he is the Satan of the political world, but the threat to Clinton was too much to handle....They will knee cap the hell out of this guy.

    If only he was not a threat, none of this would have been media worthy . Especially to this extent, wouldn't you agree?
     
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    Naaa, I do not think there are many Political specialists in the sabotage Bridge Dept, I do think that political payback is fairly common though.
     
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    I don't think he is that much of a threat. Have you read my OP? He's a windbag and a fraud who would come unglued on the national stage under scrutiny
     
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    Look. I'm so ****** sick of this (*)(*)(*)(*). Obama said "If you like your INSURANCE"you can keep it." And you can. What you can't keep is (*)(*)(*)(*)ty, swindling "pseudo" insurance which is usually worse than having no insurance at all. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing "discount plans" which cost you hundreds or thousands annually and then give you a "discount" of 25% on a 200,000 bill. Rotsa ruck on paying that $150,000 on minimum wage (which is mostly who these swindles were sold to.) And since you "have insurance" you can be ineligible for hospitals regular discounts for low incomes which are usually at least half if not a complete write off.

    Obama didn't want to subsidize con men. Christie has just proven he is one, that's the difference.
     
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    You wanna rethink that?

    The part about the only reason the media covers this is that he is a threat to Clinton....
    You don't think being the Governor of New Jersey, or the front running GOP candidate for president is enough to make it newsworthy?
     
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    Opinions do not demand actual evidence, of course, so anyone can imagine whatever he fancies, and "paybacks" can run the gamut from short-sheeting someone's bed to ordering up a plague of locusts.

    If Christie's defence is, "Aw, jeepers, everybody does it!," I doubt if the national electorate will respond, "Righto, Skippy! Let's just all forget it, shall we?"
     
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    I thought it was a very well thought out OP, nice job. I see Christie as being in the same spot so many are in when they are Red in a Blue state, Romney had the same problem. Dems have the same problem as well, witness the running from Obama care as an example,,not very Democratic....LOL Hell, some are even running from him when he visits, pressing engagements I imagine,,are they frauds? It's Politics..

    Man it has to be a tough spot to be in.
     
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    They just keep trying to divert attention away from the fact that Christie is a crook.....Hey I like the sound of that! Would make a great bumper sticker!!
     
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    Well so far there is no definite proof he was involved, so you are correct about opinions.
     
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    Not to this extent Goob, that's my opinion. Look at MSNBC,,,all day every day they are pounding this guy. Who knows if it would have even gone this far. Had another been that close to Clinton, then he would have been the target. That's what I think...
     
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    No, and it is his operation that is being investigated regarding the bridge vendetta, not that of some other politician.

    As I have consistently maintained, he could yet be personally exonerated in this scandal as well as in his alleged misuse of disaster relief funds.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Why do you do that? I gave up watching the cheerleader networks years ago.
     
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    Because they are spending time, and air time is money no matter the partisan politics both sides play. They see him as a threat, otherwise they would not invest the time.
     
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    Well, if you see corruption as simply politics as usual than yeah, none of this would be a big deal. Thing is that Democrats don't actually try to use that as a defense, like all the Republicans are doing..
     
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    Fox and MSNBC are, of course, corporate entities dedicated to profit, and only purvey ideological biases to the extent that it attracts their biased, receptive audiences that results in that profit.

    I see no reason to waste time on radio gas bags or pseudo-news networks.

    After the revelations about the bridge vendetta and other alleged scandals, a thorough investigation to ascertain the truth is entirely proper.
     
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    I think you need to step back, if the governor of New York closed the bridge for political retribution, it would have been a big story, if the leading candidate of either party got caught up in something like this it would have been a big story.
    The big story here is Chris Christy, former contender for the White House, destroys his political career with a cheap a$$ revenge move that backfires.

    The press loves "Oh how the mighty have fallen" stories.
     
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    Oh I do believe it would have made the press I agree. I also agree the Repubs would have done the same thing had their candidate been a threat like he was to her. His polls were right up her butt, nobody else was even close and the guy has star power. Point being, he was a huge threat the polls proved that, he had to be knocked off if possible,,and fast.

    So sure it's a story, but without the Clinton factor not nearly as big. One thing I am confused about though, if the Democrats were to lose wouldn't they be better off with a moderate like him than somebody else? If Obama Care goes south the reality of losing becomes huge, and just like the crash the Repubs faced with McCain, almost anybody could win from the right.
     
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    I apologize for not answering this right away, but I did not want to get off track from the thread too much. My opinion of the primaries is if the ''Elite'' Left wanted Clinton to win she would have. The media was given their marching orders, Bill knew it, most did.
    Just my opinion...
     
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    Ha, ha ha!!

    Go ahead and nominate a 'real' conservative and see the Democratic nominee win in a landslide with 400+ electoral votes.
     
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    Convincing?

    He was obviously lying.

    The oddest lies were the lengths he went through to convince people knowing David Wildstein, but Wildstein pleaded the Fifth many times and has now offered to flip on whoever (Christie?) in exchange for immunity.

    Someone is in deep crap.
     
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    ROTFL.

    Christie's problem aren't voters but the U.S. Attorney who's now investigating Bridgegate. Wildstein has already offered to flip in exchange for immunity. It will be interesting to find out what all of those redacted emails contain.

    Then there's issues with the Sandy funds:
    1) Hoboken's mayor's assertion that getting funds from the state was contingent on a land deal, and guess who was the lawyer representing one of the real estate companies---Christie's BFF David Sampson and of course he's involved in Bridgegate.
    2) The federal funds which were earmarked for NJ tourist promotion not Christie's re-election campaign will be investigated too
    3) The fact that Hispanics and blacks applications for Sandy aid were rejected at many times the rate that those of white applicants

    Christie will spend the better part of his term being investigated by the feds and he knows how things work since he is a former U.S. Attorney.
     
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    When scum like Rick Scott doesn't want to be seen in public with you then you............I don't have the words. LOL
     

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