The U.S. should never have been shutdown.

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  1. BasicHumanUnit2

    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    My God, nearly every one of my previous posts eventually gets confirmed despite huge objections from the left (they are nearly always wrong in the long run)

    Doctors sound alarm as coronavirus sparks drop in cancer diagnoses
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/doctors-sound-alarm-coronavirus-cancer-diagnoses

    Check my post Lefties. I've warned about this for 2 months now.
    This is the very small tip of an iceberg about to wreak havoc on millions who needed treatment, but were not able to get it due to leftist Fear Mongering
    over a virus not much worse than the common seasonal flu.

    100,000 deaths attributed to COVID-19 will be DWARFED by patients
    dying due to lack of or late care. This is going to be an enormous drag on our health care system for years to come.

    While the people here claiming how necessary the shutdowns were, and how "deadly" the virus was, I raised the alarm that a bigger fatality rate
    was looming thanks to the left's fear mongering which rendered a nearly useless medical system for anyone NOT suspected of COVID-19.

    CRAZY. INSANE.
    But I was EXACTLY correct.

    The Left has succeeded in causing far more damage to our nation than previously imagined.

    Let the denials begin........but the truth shall eventually have it's day regardless.
     
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    Pred Well-Known Member

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    Considering that cancer kill far more people every year than Covid ever will, the number of people that haven’t had screening to catch it early will simply kill these people sooner.
     
  3. BasicHumanUnit2

    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    And cancer is only one.
    Diabetes and on and on and on and on

    The Fear Mongering has made it impossible for millions of Americans to get the health care they critically needed
    because the left and Left media made America panic.
     
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    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Yeah? And so what?

    Cancer isn't contagious like COVID.

    Thus, your attempt at "equivalency" is an Epic FAIL.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you think the Trump guidelines for shutting down are killing more people in the long run?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the reality is, as someone that went through Chemo... with this virus on the loose, I would not want to have been one of those on Chemo now

    especially if Pence came to visit not wearing a mask

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    they did not seeing patients, they stopped procedures that would be risky with a contagious virus around that effected the lungs

    for Diabetes,

    type 2 one can just stop eating so many carbs in many cases, type 1 they would still see and treat

    type 3, they would also treat, if a type 2 was an emergency, they would see and treat as well
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Pure HOGWASH, from the brainwashed!
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    In the White House!
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    The Mooney Slimes is hardly a credible source for anything.
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The U.S. should never have been shutdown."

    I disagree - but good question.

    The initial rational for the shutdown was due to overwhelming of the Hospitals - like what happened in Italy.
    We are much better prepared now - and the vast majority of hospitals are not even close to being overwhelmed - except in a few hot spots.

    So while I agree that there was a good reason in initially - when we did not know how fast this thing would spread .. we now have this well in hand .. the curve flat - with new cases decreasing or non existent in most places. There is little danger of hospitals getting overwhelmed now and we should be opening things up in a strategic way.

    This thing will be with us .. cases here and there - but not at a rate we can not handle. Ways of dealing with the virus are improving. Ways of limiting the spread of the virus are improving .. just general hygiene makes a huge difference .. when's the last time you touched the bathroom door in the brothel ?
     
  14. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Still waiting for you to explain away the excess total number of deaths from all causes during April in New York and in all major countries in the world
     
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    I'm sorry, but if you still believe the virus is not much worse than the flu, then you really don't have much of a rational argument to contribute. Perhaps you believe that you have a natural knowledge about this virus, and therefor you know more than the doctors and scientists who studied this virus, but the fact of the matter is you do not. Nobody has a natural knowledge about this virus, the reason why we follow the advice of the doctors and scientists is because of their extensive research. I'm sorry if you still believe you naturally know better than them, and that this whole lock down is just a worldwide political conspiracy, but the danger of this virus is very real. We've now witnessed this in Italy and Spain, and if we were to experience a similar per capita fatality rate as those countries, we would be losing over 10,000 American lives a day. As is, we have been losing more American lives every two days than we did from the 9/11 attacks, and this has occurred while we are under lock down. We've had several days where over 2,000 American lives were lost from this virus in a 24 hour window

    There has never been a time window in the US's history where we lost over 2,000 lives from the common flu, yet this has happened several times from the virus since early April.... and again, this is what we have experienced from the coronavirus while under lock down. If this virus were to become as common as the flu, the fatality rate would be expected to be in the millions by the end of the year. The doctors know what they are talking about when they say this is serious, and just like how we go to doctors for advice for how to fight cancer, we need to go to doctors for advice for how we fight this virus

    Now in regards to fewer people getting cancer screenings, that's another reason why we need to contain this virus sooner rather than later. As is hospitals are overwhelmed, and they'll be even more overwhelmed if we allow this virus to spread more than it already has.
     
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    Pence has probably been tested more than anyone.
     
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    Exactly, the goalposts are being moved from flattening the curve to when we get a vaccine, which may never happen, or as Fauci said once, when we have no more cases. Crazy......Americans aren't going to put up with it.
     
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    Which hospitals are overwhelmed?

    My news keeps telling me under 50% capacity. Did something change overnight?
     
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    Many are laying off staff.
     
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    Agreed - we can not do this for a year - too many people and businesses will go bankrupt.
     
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    I think it's already too late. Other bankruptcies will follow, sad but inevitable.
     
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    ANY step that brings us closer to the Lefts Ultimate goal of Socialism / Communism is a win win for them......or so they think.

    Every leftists who hates capitalism should be forced to spend just one month in Venezuela.
    Since Venezuela is the direct result of nearly every move made by the Left.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    You should seriously re-read what you posted.
    You made a glaring mistake. ;)
    YUGE I tell you......
    Will you find it or will someone else find it first?
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Or China ...
    让他们吃面条 " Let them eat noodles "
    { Ràng tāmen chī miàntiáo }
     
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    Hilarious response as always AJ. I've never seen anybody more afraid to respond than you. You said you watched it and were asked what parts you disagreed with....then you completely dodged and gave same lame sarcastic response.

    Your streak of posts that contribute nothing and don't respond to what you quoted (a violation of forum rules that is never enforced) is still intact.

    Anybody who puts AJ on ignore will, quite literally, never miss anything....ever. I keep debating it but the comedy value of the posts have kept me from doing it.
     

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