The murder rate in the UK according to US standards is double or higher than their reported rate. It may be impossible to produce an actual apples to apples comparison number from official sources. It is not 15% of the US rate. The rate may be as much as double the US. http://rboatright.blogspot.com/2013/03/comparing-england-or-uk-murder-rates.html
The U.K. is a violent place. Stabbings are common occurrences there. For some reason, they seem to see this as okay just because the people are not being shot. Pretty stupid if you ask me. Dead is dead. Doesn't really matter how it happens. There is very little for the U.K. to feel superior about with their violent crime stats.
And the unemployment rate in Japan is much higher than 4.3%. Governments manipulate statistics all the time for various political and social purposes. It keeps the population from becoming restless and disaffected.
Less guns = less gun violence. They don't care about fixing the source of violence, they just want less gun violence.
While I am for gun-control, I am not a fool and do not think it will magically solve the problem of murder and violence. Besides any short-term plan for gun-control might have the reverse effect of leaving innocent civilians unarmed. Let us put some commonsense gun regulations in place for the short-term. Perhaps we need a comprehensive program for decreasing violence within the United States. One correlation is violence and poverty. Decreasing poverty and inequality in the United States would decrease violence many times more than all the foolish liberals think they can do with gun-control legislation.
Published annually, the homicide statistics by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) are based on police records. They provide annual homicide figures as well as the rate (i.e. the number per million of the population) for the preceding ten years, broken down by sex and age groups. The criteria for recording homicides have not changed since 1974, and, significantly, homicide cases that have not yet resulted in a conviction are also included. Homicide offences are shown according to the year in which the police initially recorded the offence as homicide. This is not necessarily the year in which the incident took place or the year in which any court decision was made. The figures are adjusted in subsequent reports for those cases that have not resulted in a homicide conviction, but the adjustments are usually small. http://www.nspcc.org.uk/Inform/research/briefings/child_killings_in_england_and_wales_wda67213.html
Any time numbers are not included you can question the intent. This is exactly what the OP is about, the numbers do not include homicides that did not result in conviction.
The capacity of extremist nutters to find false figures and believe 'em shows the importance of faith. It will keep 'em shooting children forever! Heil NRA!
So, sum guy on da internetz sez dat iz troo!! So let us look at this claim further and we see from his own source material https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/116483/hosb0212.pdf Hmmmm - seems that the term "Murder" only relates to a subset of crimes whereas "Homicide" the term more commonly compared is somewhat different So let us look further Sorry mate - it is a a prime example of a cherry pick
That isn't actually true. Stabbings are not 'common occurrences' in the UK at all, and the UK in general is not a particularly violent place at all.
Entirely true. The problem is - as in other places - that any form of violence, however totally untypical, is regarded by the media as 'news', whereas such boring matters as the steady fall in even our not-very-great crime rate is ignored, so that the simpletons who read rubbish like the Mail and do not have any contact with the real world or allowed to propagate nonsense, which is picked up by similar Americans.
Not according to the stats I saw when I posted that. I used to have a quote in my signature that broke it down. A non-fatal stabbing approximately every 40 minutes. That might have just been England, though. No idea what Wales is like.
I think the operative phrase here is "Non-fatal" Now of that number - how many were domestic violence?
The UK is not counted as a whole when it comes to stats such as murder rate. For such stats it is divided into three - England & Wales; Scotland; and Northern Ireland. That's because each of those three areas has its own laws and legal system. The murder rate in England & Wales is the second-lowest in Europe and amongst the lowest in the world. The murder rate in Scotland, however, is the second-highest in Europe. Scotland's homicide rate is 2.33 deaths for every 100,000 people each year, compared with just 0.7 in England & Wales. In Spain it is 1.02, and in Italy 0.96. Germany has Europe's lowest murder rate: 0.68 per 100,000 people. To put into persepctive just how muderous Scotland is, compare Glasgow and London. In 2008 there were 31 murders in Glasgow and 161 murders in Greater London. There may have been more murders in Greater London but Greater London has a population of 15 million (three times that of the whole of Scotland) whereas Glasgow has a population of just 600,000. Greater London's population is almost 30 times that of Glasgow, yet it had just four times as many murders. Violent crime in Scotland is also much worse than in the rest of the UK and Glasgow was once named the most violent city in the UK and the fourth most violent city in Europe. If you look at the murder and violent crime stats for Britain as a whole, then they would be a lot lower if you take Scotland out of the equation.
