The US is sending depleted-uranium ammo to Ukraine capable of piercing Russian tank armour, report s

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  1. Bearack

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    By doing such an act... the US is in essence guaranteeing Russia's use of tactical nukes in Ukraine!!! How in insane is this administration?!
     
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    Poor Putin. He has no free will, everything he does or will do is Joe Biden's fault.
     
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    Uh how does this guarantee that? Lol
     
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    It's not free will that is the issue... We are provoking a nuclear reaction.. You honestly can't think providing depleted uranium shells is a good idea?!
     
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    He literally said he would respond in kind. There have also been vast studies of the long term effect of the use of depleted uranium shells used in the Blakins and Middle East.
     
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    Ukraine is at war because Putin invaded Ukraine. The war will be over when Putin leaves Ukraine.

    This war is 100% on Putin, nothing anyone else has done has anything to do with it.
     
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    Ukraine is at war with Russia because the US overthrew the previous government and installed a US friendly administration and started IMMEDIATELY arming the nation. This is merely a US proxy war that is costing thousands of lives to supplement the US war machine! And now we are finding that Ukraine was merely a "get rich" launder scheme for the Biden's.

    Putin is a POS, but blaming this whole thing on Putin by far inaccurate... The US had a major hand in making sure this war happened! Now they are looking to escalate it to a full fledged WWIII!!
     
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    If you think the US overthrew the previous government, there isn't anything i can do to help you.

    Don't bother explaining it to me. I know what you are going to say, there isn't information you have that I have not been exposed to. It's just nonsense, and i'm sorry you believe it.
     
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    It's about as dangerous as 2nd hand smoke.
     
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    The CIA has been overthrowing governments for nearly a century. It's a sad reality of our nation and one that is now causing thousands of innocent Ukrainian lives. And it's fairly well documented the events that led to the the coup.. but don't let facts get in the way of your fiction.

    I highly suggestion taking a peak ad Mask of the revolution.. It's fairly enlightening. You can view it here if you like
     
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    I was alive when it happened. I know exactly what happened in Ukraine.

    You should have paid attention while it happened, it was glorious.
     
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    So... Insurections are cool when you're leading them? Noted!
     
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    Surgeon General disagrees with Harvard's disagreement.
    There is a minimum safe exposure level for DU.
    According to the SG, there is no safe exposure level for 2nd hand smoke.
    Plus, did you even read your link? It's full of words and warnings and supositions but where the rubber meets the road is right here:
    In other words, if there is a health risk, it is so small that they couldn't find it.
     
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    I think he was joking, cause some make such a huge deal of second hand smoke, then the studies were really of being in a box filled with second hand smoke..... which is actually worse than smoking a cigarette as it's a fog of smoke so thick you can cut it with a knife, this caused people to fear even walking by someone smoking outside, thinking that was the same thing
     
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    "But an administration official said that there were now no major obstacles to providing the ammunition."

    so they are not providing them, but there is no obstacle if they wanted too
     
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    ?? What's got depleted uranium got to do with a nuclear response? Just because it has "uranium" in the name doesn't mean that it can be used to make nuclear weapons. In fact, it's called depleted because it is the left over of the enrichment process that creates "enriched" uranium, which CAN be used to make nuclear weapons. Depleted uranium is used for armor-piercing ammunition because of its large weight (density). That gives this kind of ammunition a very high kinetic energy. You better check the science first before making unfounded claims.
     
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    Dems will never take responsibility for US actions they dont like. Took them a day to want more war.
     
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    Seems like a deliberate provocation. DU doesnt have any better armor piercing capability than tungsten does. Its just cheaper because the nuclear energy industry will pay to have DU hauled away (or they have to pay out the ass to store/dispose of it safely- its nuclear waste, after all), and tungsten is expensive. Why we decided that DU is only an environmental hazard when not being hurled randomly around a battlefield is anyones guess...

    I spose one could argue that Ukraine has volunteered to be our new nuclear waste disposal site, free of charge...
     
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    Well.... not free. $71 billion (less 10% for the Big Guy) and growing.
     
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    Unfounded claim?! You do realize that we used these in the Middle East and in the Balkan's and there have been case studies performed of the ill effects to soldiers, citizens and crop damage?!

    Lethal Dust: Effects of Depleted Uranium Ammunition

    Irradiating Russian soldiers and citizens could elicit a response... One that none of us want.
     
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    They get filthy rich from war. They will always ensure we are involve in a conflict in one way or another.
     
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    Well maybe. I guess the question is whether Ukraine's use of the DU is predicated upon the payment or not. Something tells me they would use the DU even if we didn't send them a buncha other crap. My point is that tungsten works just as well, so we're either cheapskating on sending them ammo that isn't an environmental hazard, or we're deliberately trying to escalate tensions. Or both.
     
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    The insanity and treason of this administration has been blatant long before this recent action.
     
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    That article, that we can't read, was from 2001. Over the last 22 years, there still has been no study that positively links DU to ill side effects. Do you not find that strange?
     

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