Having gotten thru the first batch of comments I see there are no wine connoisseur hereabout. French wines are by far the best,and California Big Reds like Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot Noir a close 2nd. Zinfandels are for novice.Merlot are good.As are Petite Syrah. There is no trick with wine appreciation.It is a constant endeavor.There is no One Wine.Maybe one wine appelation or Varietal. I do not drink white wine.It tends to cause headaches like those idiots who swear by Blue Nun or the gastly German schnapps or even worse Jagermeister. That stuff is virtually guaranteed to give one a headache.
you don't see the french wines posted in this thread? it's your head and a lack of knowledge that are the problem
Drunkards wine.Yes I drank the stuff back in college.But really not very much. My first drunk in high school was with Ripple.I drank quite a bit of the stuff. Then a few years later when I was a beer drunk,I took to Rose. I really liked inexpensive { not cheap } Rose.Lancer's was popular but about a buck {$1} more than I wanted to spend.One also had to learn how to uncork a wine.
It's the sugars in wine that cause the headaches { like a Blue Nun } Same thing with fortified wines like mad dog 20/20 or Nightrain. It's not the sulfites in wine because red wine has plenty,but white wine often more.Wine does tend to dehydrate which in effect causes a headache.
blue nun is swill, the beerenauslese i posted on this page, is much sweeter than blue nun and it doesn't cause headaches unless you've got something wrong with your head again, swill that's not fit for human consumption most people that get headaches from wine, get it from red wine, because they can't tolerate histamines if you're allergic to sulfites, which occur naturally during fermentation, your throat closes up and you can't breathe not if you're in good condition
Well, I certainly never claimed to be a connoisseur, and as with most things in life, I find snobbery unbearable. Which is not to say that I'm not open to learning more about wine. I just happen to think the important thing is whether or not one enjoys drinking it. If you put something in front of me that I find unappealing, I'm not going to care much about all the things that supposedly make it a spectacular wine.
It boils down to passion.Like being passinate about a hobby or a favorite sports team or even the love of cooking. Wine or good wine is an expensive habit.The rewards are both personal and also helping to accomodate a good meal.Imagine a wine person ordering a fine meal at a restaurant and being told it's a dry county { no alcohol sales }. I don't drink Red wine to get drunk.I drink Cognac and Vodka for that. Good Wine is as diverse as you want it to be.It's availibility may be a problem. BTW ... thanks to Obama and his creation of a Political Elite class of Aristocrats,the best wine in this country are already spoken for in 2 county's inside and around Washington D.C.
I drank ripple in college myself. It was cheap and not as obnoxious as the real rot-guts. Some of that crap such as "mad dog" made me heave just to try a taste. I quit alch back in 2003 after a 2nd DUI - in one day - No regrets on that decision! Now I'm just a degenerate pot head. No regrets on that decision, ether -
No question at all.Just try and find any good Cab from the great vintage of 2009. They've all been bought up.Forget any great French wine. I dare you to buy a bottle of Romanee-Conti.There are none available. They go at special auction way before any average schmuck has the wherewithal to get an agent to buy at auction.Fine French wine is what Many Political Elites go after.Like new Masserati or Ferrari.Only the Elites will be able to purchase. There are waiting lists.To even get on a list means having the right clout to not just put down a hefty Deposit far in advance,but also connections. Wake Up and Smell the Wine.
i already have some and there are plenty of other great burgs available besides drc what happens is that most distributors give offers to past buyers first edit: i found some available at berry bros in london Romanée-Conti, Domaine de la Romanée-Conti - BERRYS' CARTON 1 Bottle £17300.00 http://www.bbr.com/products-12621-2009-romanee-conti-domaine-de-la-romanee-conti?list_tab_F=RI i was on the list decades ago
That reminds me of the first couple times I tried to make homemade wine. The results were less than stellar. But it it did get you drunk.
French wine is sooooooo yesterday. Most Oz wine makers come back from doing overseas vintages in France laughing their heads off at the way they screw up good grapes. Aussie wines are the go – especially from non-irrigated areas like the Barossa in South Oz, Hunter Valley in New South Wales – Margaret River in West Oz. Decades ago the French would not let Oz wine producers use their regional terms like Burgundy etc so Australian wine makers started marketing the variety – Chardonnay, Shiraz, Cabernet Sauvignon etc BEST thing that ever happened. Sulphites created during fermentation – hmmmmm, maybe some – but sulphur di oxide (SO2) is added to all wines as a preservative and that’s the main origin. Even organic wines have sulphur added to about ½ the rate of other wines. I’m getting fond of sparkling Whites – Prosecco especially. Any red from the non-irrigated areas are usually pretty good. A good cab/sauv-shiraz blend is nice.
what a joke, australia has some good wine but they don't even come close to the quality france achieves
Took my "good" boxed wine camping, let it sit in 90 degree weather because we ran out of cooler space and threw some ice cubes in when it was time for that after dinner glass and nearly lost my taste for the stuff...good or bad. Just saying don't do that. Use beer on camping trips.
Au contraire! Yes French wine is great if you like that lovely oxidized after taste. Even our mass produced dry land (irrigated) wines are great value for money. I’m not even mentioning the vast range of awesome wines from the 100’s boutique wineries around the country. The Penfolds Grange Hermitage range. Adelaide Hills, Claire Valley, Coonawarra, McLaren Vale the list of areas producing excellent red and white varieties is endless. The quality of Australian wine is right at the top.
there's no general oxidized taste in fench wines, your palate is either flawed, inadequate or both look, i've been in the wine business for decades, grange is great juice, but overall, france's wine have much more elegance and flavor than aussie wines
Even the US made them think twice when they saw the quality coming out of the Napa Valley. They realised oxidized wines taste like crap and their stoic approach that everything about foreign wines was bad, made a mockery of them in blind tasting. They also soon realised attributes like “elegance” meant nothing. Calling Grange “juice’ I think you are trying to cover for not really knowing much except maybe paying too much for frech wine with old labels!!! As does your assertion about “flavor” something Oz wines are world renowned for. LOL
crap doesn't sell for hundreds and thousands of dollars a bottle that's just your ignorance talking, people in the wine business often refer to wine as juice i started going to trade tastings in the 1970's and have tasted countless thousands of wines over the decades often oz wines have bad flavor, i don't even waste my time with them
LOL – so price = quality!! Only a moron would pay 100’s of 1000’s of dollars for a bottle of booze. Never heard anyone call wine juice, ever. Juice comes from grapes. Ahhh the 1970’s – sounds like you’ve kept your prejudices for decades – kudos. The 1970 was when people started to realise the whole “French is best” was bollocks. You don’t even taste them!! But comment on them and call out my ignorance!! Priceless!!
I think all countries probably produce good and bad (I thought I’d give dujac a stir up as he/she sounded so one track on the French stuff). We bottle a lot of Argentinean wine into cheap “clean skin” brands, arrives on OZ in 25,000 liter bladders. But I’m sure they have better quality wines as well. A winery I used to work at produced a range for EJ Gallo in the US, called Black Swan (muddy Duck we called it) I would definitely suggest you try an Oz wine if you can find any – especially from any of the regions I mention (Hunter Valley, Barossa, Claire Valley, Mclaren Vale, Margaret river etc etc) – even our mass produces wines are very drinkable. And let’s face it you want a good wine that you like the taste of – nothing more – as long as you like it. Same with matching wine/food – pick something you like to drink.
you don't know what you're talking about i drink italian, austrian, german, alsatian, spanish, potugeuse, madeirense, greek, hungarian, new zealanders, american and etc no wonder you're so backwards you don't have a clue what you're talking about that's because you don't have a clue what you're talking about http://www.goodjuicedirect.com what do you think i haven't tasted?
My wife is the wine connoisseur.. I'm more of a beer guy. But i help pick them out & taste a lot. She is definitely in the fruity red zone in the chart.. which was very interesting, btw.. thanks for posting it! She prefers the zinfandels, too, & the syrahs.. the bolder, richer wines. I could not list them in preference, but these are in her cellar: old vine zinfandel petite syrah syrah shiraz pinot noir sangiovese malbec some merlots some cabs meritage She doesn't care for sweet wines.. & even whites are not high on her list.. very rarely will she buy white wine. I think she has a few more varieties, but i think her favorites are the zinfandels, pinots, & syrahs.
