Theory of Intelligent Design

If that's the formula for life then it should be easily replicated, something they have failed to do.
A molecule isn't life. A molecule is 2 or more atoms bound together. The topic is the theory of ID not the theory of molecule construction.
What you have a formula for is a Golem.

 

2017
Scientists create new life form in a lab, altering the fundamentals of DNA

2017
Organisms created with synthetic DNA pave way for entirely new life forms

2016
Scientists Create Revolutionary Synthetic Life Form

2016
Scientists create life without fertilising an egg

2015
Scientists are actually creating microscopic life in laboratories. Should you worry?

2014
Formation of life’s building blocks recreated in lab

2012
Synthetic DNA Created, Evolves on Its Own

2009
Life’s First Spark Re-Created in the Laboratory

 

From your link-
At the moment, that manipulation and the process is limited only to single cells and can't be used in more complex organisms. And at the moment it can't actually be applied, existing only as a proof of concept.

Plus, I think they used bacteria or something already living.

Here's a similar article.

Scientists use mathematical calculations to PROVE the existence of God
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/756870/proof-of-god-kurt-godel

In 1978, mathematician Kurt Gödel died and left behind a long and complex theory based on modal logic.
But two computer scientists have used computers to run such complicated which they say confirms that the equation does indeed add up.

Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated, but the essence is that no greater power than God can be conceived, and if he or she is believed as a concept then he or she can exist in reality.

 

You first said that they failed to create life. Once Ive shown that they can, now you are sayin that they failed to create complex life. Once they create complex life you'll be saying that they failed to create intelligent life.

Just over 100 years ago we barely had the light bulb or electricity. Now look what we have. I'm sure in the next 100 years well have scientific and medical advances to create complex complex life and more. In the next 100 years we should reach the singularity thanks to AI and the likes of optical and quantum computers.

 

I don't believe any of it. I would have been front page news. they admitted that it's a theory only.
What's in the news is A.I.
Using living bits and claiming you've created life is a lie.

 

Bury your head in the sand
It wouldnt be front page news. It would be located in the science area. While this might have huge implications for you, to others it's just another discovery or a breakthrough.

All of the articles I posted are from credible enough sources.

2008
Americans Clueless About Plans to Create New Life Forms

 

No science has NOT created new life forms. Sorry.
If it had been done, it would be a major news story, not something slithering through
this forum.
Starting with living organisms and toying with them is trivial, not creative.

Tracker Sam, my Friend, don't keep replying to him. It only encourages more of the same.

 

Slithering around? Am I the satan now?

Livescience. Independent. The Guardian. RDMAG. FinancialTimes. WashingtonPost. NationalGeographic. Wired. Etc all reported about it. You know, the links that I posted? Sounds like you need to diversify the places that you get your news from.

You should then tell your god that if you believe what you believe

 

This reminds me of the experiments concerning NDEs, where someone was pumped full of drugs and it caused them to see the much talked about light and claiming they've replicated the NDE experience. but all they've proven is that they can drug someone and make them see lights. There is no concensus among scientists in regards to how life began and in any case concensus is not science.
The challenge is on the table - name 1 scientist who claims to know how life began. Science is the new religion.

 

DMT is naturally stored in your brain. When you are about to die it is released making you see all types of things.

Common trips include seeing your life flash before your eyes. Seeing the face of god. Going to hell. Traveling to other worlds and talking to owls in unknown language.

Triping on DMT that is stored in your brain is a more logical explanation than actually seeing the pearly gates and what not

 

The problem with Gödel's equation is not the math but rather the assumptions in the Axioms which are specious and therefore negate the validity of the result.

 

Science and scientists are not in the business of "Knowing" things, instead they produce results indicating possibility and furthering it through collective examination until theory becomes accepted after attempts to debunk said data. At this point these processes indicate multiple possibilities as to what may have led to life and none of them involve magic.

 

Since you don't know what was involved, you can't possibly know what wasn't involved.

 

That is completely inaccurate and goes against the very scientific process you are attempting to debunk. Finding out what is not possible or "Involved" is required when trying to find what IS. Again, no one says they "Know" what created life...but, they do "Know" what did not. It is possible that chemical interactions over millions of years with quadrillions of actions combined in such a way to become self replicating. It is in no way possible humans were poofed into existence by some unseen force out of mud.

 

I did not say it was a formula for anything. I was reminding you that atoms create molecules and molecules combine with other molecules to create bigger molecules. But if you can't see that leading to self-replicating molecules, well, that's to be expected.

As far as the "theory of ID" or creationism, there is none.

 

You're right. We know a spatula probably wasn't involved. Scratch off the color TV and the Beluga whale. Last weeks unfinished sandwich is probably out. I know my dog was home with me so scratch him off.
When I get the rest of the stuff that wasn't used off the list, then maybe we'll know.
You believe humans were poofed into existence by sheer luck and happenstance, an accidental serendipitous moment where random elements met for the first time in the exact required form and quantity, maybe a lightning bolt thrown in for affect and drama.
Maybe the next time a tornado comes into your area, you throw a big big pot of alphabet soup into it and maybe a quality Shakespearean book will come out of it.

 

Not in this case, because no one is ever going to know how life started. There is no time machine that would allow you to go back and observe, unless you're talking about theory, speculation and guesses.
You believe humans were poofed into existence by sheer luck and happenstance, an accidental serendipitous moment where random elements met for the first time in the exact required form and quantity, maybe a lightning bolt thrown in for affect and drama.
Maybe the next time a tornado comes into your area, you throw a big big pot of alphabet soup into it and maybe a quality Shakespearean book will come out of it. Your theory requires religious faith.

 

No I do not....I accept a possibility far more complex and time consuming than you portray in an attempt to promote impossibility.

 

Note the strawman fallacy this one relies upon.

And he uses a variation of it in the very next sentence.

 

YOU DA MAN, TrackerSam.
YOU DA MAN.

 

Ultimately, it's quite a simple process here, produce your god and I will accept what you say. I would still think it to be an ******* unworthy of my appreciation but, you would have at least demonstrated that you can show it and therefore know it.

 

Gotta love when predictions like those are made!

The earth is flat!

The earth is the center of the universe!

Heavier than air flight is impossible!

And so many more!



We did not know that planets existed around other stars 25 years ago but we do now!

25 years is less than an eyeblink in cosmic time and a very small fraction of time in the history of mankind.

Our knowledge base is expanding as we speak and there are scientists working on the problem of the origin of life. They have made important strides along the way already.

So to blindly ASSUME that the answer will never be found is to be like the flat earthers.

 

If you know the process of how a tornado is started, do you need to go back a gazillion years to observe one forming to find out how it started?

By your failed logic all history that is older than people isn't real because no one who is alive was around to see it. So using your logic I can argue that the roman empire never existed because no one around today has ever seen it themselves. It is just a myth.

And the big bang isn't real either. Even though right now we observe the universe expanding. A simple man can conclude that if some thing is expanding, at one point it must have been smaller.

We don't need to be around during the time of big bang to know that the universe was smaller because it's expanding today

If we know how something happens today, we don't need to be around yesterday to find out how it happened then.

No one said that. Life didn't begin suddenly

No one said this either. It took many many many years for life to finally appear.

You are clearly ignorant of it all.

NASA Scientists Cook Up Building Blocks of Life in Lab

Amino acids form RNA. RNA formed DNA in a single celled organisms. Mutations allows metabolization of more complex materials, allowing for the organism itself to become more complex.

Take this ecoli for example. After 31,500th generation it mutated to have the ability to metabolize citrate.

Bacteria make major evolutionary shift in the lab

Life evolves like this. Becoming more and more complex. How complex life can become is only a matter of time

As you can see. This is all well established and there are many many scientific experiments that support all of this

More evidence than the existenceof god of which there is zero evidence of

 

Would you stop with your condescension, once and for all?
You PRETEND to be oh so sophisticated and erudite, and yet don't demonstrate it at all.
You just mouthe meaningless generalities and evade challenges others and I have offered up.

I repeat: Why don't you explain how hemoglobin was first manufactured in your "evolutionary" process.
Give precursors, and their respective functions from the 500th through the 574th amino acid residues, and
explain how the precise folding was "selected".

Why is hemoglobin said to be a "breathing" molecule?
How does it violate LeChatelier's Principle?


Talk science, Mister Know It All.

 

I'll continue to "slither around" on this thread

A person who resorts to ad hominem attacks of calling someone a devil when that person is presented with facts that he doesn't like has zero credibility.

Why would anyone debate fact with you when you will just deny any credible sources and say that they are slithering around?

You minus well be water boy's mom