There are fewer Christians in the European Parliament

There are fewer Christians in the European Parliament
it's good
do you agree
there were 217 deputies in 2014
became 179 in 2019

 

What difference does it make?

 

I do not think it should make a difference, were Christians pushing their religion in the past, are the non-Christians pushing something else, only if they are pushing their beliefs on the people via laws is it an issue

 

... and the majority are non-practicing anyway.

 

Christianity will soon die in Europe

 

So what? Christianity isn't home-spun in Europe and as long as I don't live in a theocracy I am happy.

 

the scientists won

 

Until further notice. Science has proved that the established religions are bunko. But who knows ..... maybe someday they will discover the true origin of life and it might turn out to be some other god?

 

You're wrong, science has proven no such thing. Scientific discoveries lead scientists ever closer to a understanding that existence the universe require a creator. Only in western countries has Christianity been abandoned, the global Christian population continues to grow. Anyone how thinks science has disproven religion has no idea what's happening in our world.

 

It's you who is wrong ...

.. and that's the reason you are wrong.

I'm sure there isn't a single reputable scientist who names "a creator" in his/her analysis of existence and in any case you obviously haven't read my above response completely. Funny though, that you quoted me but didn't get the juice out of it.

Again, you are wrong. Science has proven Christianity (specifically the Bible from which Christianity bases its hokus-pokus) is nothing but primitive superstition.

Anyone who denies the debunking of Christianity by science is entangled in superstition and unable to think clearly. The facts are all there but maybe missing "the juice" is a typical blind eye and deaf ear phenomenon.

 

OK, uninformed and confident. Not a good way to go through life Thingamabob.

There are dozens, hundreds, probably thousands of scientists who profoundly disagree with you. This link will take you to many, including Dr. Francis Collins a physician with a Ph.D in biology, and a Christian.

Noted Ph.D’s And Scientists Who Believe God Created The Universe
https://robertcliftonrobinson.com/n...ted,Lennox ... 6 George Francis Rayner Ellis

Francis Collins
(Born April 14, 1950) Ph.D. in Biology; an American Physician who helped map the entire Human Genome. Once a staunch Atheist, the experience in dealing with dying patients led him to question his own spiritual life and begin to investigate different religions. Dr. Collins began to study the evidence for and against God in cosmology, and used Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis as a foundation to re-examine his religious view. Realizing that God is real and that Christianity is the truth, he became an Evangelical Christian during a hike on a Fall afternoon. He has described himself as a “serious Christian.”

Dr. Collins is the current director of the National Institutes of Health and former director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute.

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And another I find particulary persuasive is John lennox

John Lennox
Ph.D., Mathematician, philosopher of science and pastoral adviser. His books include “The Theory of Infinite Soluble Groups” and “God’s Undertaker–Has Science buried God?” He has extensively debated religion with Richard Dawkins, a leading spokesman for Atheism. Dr. Lennox is a distinguished professor at Oxford College in England.

Dr. Lennox is, in my opinion, one of the preeminent Christian Philosophers and Apologist on the earth today. His debate with Professor Richard Dawkins on the book, The God Delusion, is a stunning example of how the facts of Christianity that are supported by science, should be intelligently communicated to overcome every objection of the skeptic or nonbeliever. Of particular pleasure for me is the fact that Dr. Lennox always wears a warm smile when He is speaking to his opponent, or anyone to which he gives answers regarding the evidence to believe in creation and the gospel of Jesus Christ.

"Our answer to the question of why the universe is rationally intelligible will in fact depend, not on whether we are scientists or not, but on whether we are theists or naturalists. Theists will argue that Wigner is wrong when he says there is no rational explanation for that intelligibility. On the contrary, they will say that the intelligibility of the universe is grounded in the nature of the ultimate rationality of God: both the real world and mathematics are traceable to the Mind of God who created both the universe and the human mind. It is, therefore, not surprising when the mathematical theories spun by human minds created in the image of God’s Mind, find ready application in a universe whose architect was that same creative Mind.”

“Why is there a universe at all, why is there something rather than nothing? Now there are some scientists and philosophers who think that we should not even ask this question. For them there is no point in looking for a reason for the existence of the universe since, according to them, there simply isn’t one. Their view is that, since any chain of reasoning must start somewhere, we might as well start with the existence of the universe. Echoing Bertrand Russell, E. Tryton writes: ‘Our universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time.’ However, the kind of answer that says that the universe just sprang into existence sounds about as scientific as answering the question why apples fall to the ground, by saying that they just do. In addition, it would be distinctly odd, as Keith Ward points out, ‘to think that there is a reason for everything, except for that most important item of all – that is, the existence of everything, the universe itself’. The insatiable human desire for explanation will not let that question rest.”
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OK, indoctrinated, dumbed-down, superstitious, and dazzled by primitive beliefs in hokus-pokus. Not a good way to go through life ..... or to meet death with a clear conscience "just in case", mswan. Furthermore (and possibly the most important) is that you have ignored the basis of my original reply as though it doesn't exist. Intentionally? I assume so.

 

I don't know what your "original reply" was nor do I care. This is what I responded to "I'm sure there isn't a single reputable scientist who names "a creator" in his/her analysis of existence and in any case you obviously haven't read my above response completely. Funny though, that you quoted me but didn't get the juice out of it."

You are wrong.

 

MOST DEFINITELY I agree! Who needs superstition and balderdash governing nations? Here below is a typical example of Christian hodge-podgery:

My, oh my!

 

Well, you've been proven wrong, ever more scientists are recognizing that creation requires a creator. Diversion isn't going to help you out here so you're just going to have to own it.

 

Jimmy: "Someone is criticizing Christianity again! What should I do?"
Robert: "Maybe you can bluff him with the standard biblical clap-trap!"
Jimmy: "Like what?"
Robert: "You know, tell him he's gonna' suffer in agony for an eternity if he doesn't convert to the all-merciful Jesus!"
Jimmy: "Does it work?"
Robert: "Well, science has debunked all of that nonsense but it's worth a try."

 

Your comments on this thread may have been intended to discus a larger context...maybe...but you made a proveably false statement and are now afraid to admit it. It weakens your argument.

 

Well, it’s not surprising that you don’t know considering that you’ve proudly ignored the knowledge in your very own words, with this ….

Funny how some people snatch words such as ”proof” from thin air and try to apply it to something earthly.

Even whole catch-phrases can be snatched from thin air.

B-b-b-b-but you still don’t know what my complete argument is. The problem is probably due to my application of truth (whenever and wherever it has been established) as well as pure logic. I am fully aware that communicating with religious persons can be improved by using their own source of logic ….




… but then I’d feel like a hypocrite.

 

I do't think you're a hypocrite, you're just wrong.

 

Thank G-d.

Many "Christians" have done just a bang-up job of ****ing up our world repeatedly over the last 1600 years.

 

As with all cult victims, I feel deeply sorry for you.

 

True.

 

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nice one

 

weird that.....I'm confused....which is usually the case.....anyway, how can science prove or dis-prove someones faith? If someone wants to think that they believe in God then so what....errmmmm..... If I say my favorite colour is blue is there some science that says "f**k you you're wrong it's RED!!"
Seriously though....organised religions aren't based on science they're based on faith....so I guess what the f**k has science got to do with it? Dunno...nothin I suppose....It's like that Dawkins lad....he's always trying to put the kibosh on the godly people but what the bugger has it got to do with him anyway..?

 

Try reading it again this time in English …