There are no guest workers any more.

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by spt5, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. spt5

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    If you go to work to a country (e.g. Germany/France), then you are a guest worker / temporary worker.

    When your wife goes with you, she is the same.

    When your kinds go with you and/or get born there (Germany/France) then what are they?

    I am not advocating for guest workers, but isn't the host country the new home country then?

    Since most work, especially agricultural and manual is done by the 2nd and 3rd generation guest workers, who never left or visited outside Germany/France, aren't they the new German/French people, and not us whites?

    What will happen if they decide to buy up land and property (the Pakistan guest workers already do), and then they make some territorial portions of Germany/France their own, legislatively, culturally, linguistically, and ethnically? Will Germany/France peacefully retreat from these lands and give administration over to them?

    (By the way, the European nation states require the East European countries to do this for some of their ethnicities over their territories.)
     
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    DutchClogCyborg New Member

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    Ask a German Turk, a French Algerian, a British Pakistani what they are and they will not mention German French or British. They are loyal to a far away land, live in their own separated world within Europe. Hell In France some regions are no longer available for the police to go in without a sizable force and back up...
     
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    The Europe wants to help these third-world people, why not just give them more aid? Why do the poor people have to immigrate to Europe to get social benefits, free healthcare, and free good education for their children?

    If you offer these free handouts only to those that come into your country, what do you think is going to happen? No, give them aid, but do not allow them to settle in Europe.
     
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    I thought that European leaders have always imported outsider people for European jobs and settlement, including even directly giving land to them in the past. Isn't this how the biggest European country in history, Austria-Hungary got multi-ethnic? What is now happening in France, Germany, and the UK, is simply an uninterrupted continuation of the 1000 year long process, right?

    If parts of countries have become unacessible for a government law enforcement service such as police, then maybe we need to change our way of thining, and call those lands a new, de facto independent "country".

    Maybe we should allow those people into the EU freely, without immigration control, and allow them to organize their own territorial administrations. This will remove the financal burden from the taxpayers that now support welfare systems in thei benefits. The solution may be to fragment the welfare system, teritorially, as into districts.

    What's your takes?
     
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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Perhaps you should take a look back in history at what actually happened to Austria-Hungary. Because of all the ethnic divission, the empire splintered apart. It was not entirely peaceful, in fact it precipitated the first world war!
     
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    The politicians allow this to happen because it drives down wages and thus drives up their profits. The rich win and everyone else slowly gets driven into slavery.

    Economic migration is the way to reintroduce serfdom that the political elite have been longing for.
     

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