There It Goes Again — Russian Ruble Falls To New Record Lows

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  1. wolfin

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    i read that Putin made a US top ten admired list this year. Meanwhile, we are drowning Russia in cheap oil. It will be an interesting year especially for Russian citizens.
     
  2. Destroyer of illusions

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    (Iraq, Afghanistan ...) Your claims are directed towards me? You surprise me. I showed pictures Polish. If you do not agree - claims to the Poles (among other things - NATO member, fought in Afghanistan and Iraq) Poles - ardent russophobes. And if they do these pictures, they know what they are doing.
    And... A Happy New Year to you.
     
  3. litwin

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    its true, they are already very pooor because of putler´s actions
     
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    I meant when Russia fought in Afghanistan long before we did. You have a safe new year.
     
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    I read much, Washington - CIA organized bloody revolution in Ukraine and continues and wants to continue war, but anybody in the West can't give a but kick to Washington because America controls all banks of the western countries. Who controls country finance, that controls also all country.

     
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    Your right about one thing.....the POLES HATE RUSSIA AND RUSSIAN'S!! LOL!!!

    I guess being a nation of people that lived under Soviet Enforced COMMUNIST RULE for many decades will do that to a people!!

    The Poles were the first and bravest of all people of the nations that were under or a part of Soviet Rule.

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    We were able to accomplish our goals in Afghanistan because UNLIKE THE SOVIET UNION...the United States had no intention of Annexing Afghanistan.

    We went in...killed our enemies...and are leaving.

    Now....let's all recall how the Soviet Union got it's A$$ handed to it by the Afghans.

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    It's true. You have reached your goals - the production of heroin has increased a hundredfold.

    Again, you're right. The Soviet Union in Afghanistan built schools, hospitals, power plants..... But opium plantations - is the prerogative of the United States.

    Taliban says another. Taliban says that "... shamefully fled demoralized NATO troops" This, incidentally, confirmed by the Poles (participants of the war in Afghanistan)
     
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    Do you think the Poles love USA? Very funny. Poles do not like - no one. Ask Polish neighbors. For example the Germans. Or Ukrainians. Poles loyal to the US just because it is profitable. (I mean the political leadership of Poland).
    By the way, soon we will see a mass exodus from the "American ship", American "allies". However, they are already running. Look at the Middle East. US allies almost gone. Even Saudi Arabia spits on the United States.
    Even Latin America hates the US. (Obama forced to fawn before "Iron Castro.") This trend is coming to the EU. Look at Hungary, for example. US become an outcast.
    Once the United States have a problem, the Poles spit on Americans. And they will talk about the tender feelings towards Russia. And nastalgiya remember the Soviet era.
    And it is not good and not bad. This is a way to survive minor nations.
    And more. You need to take care of itself. To survive in racial conflict. Which will be very soon in USA.
    For Example. In the suburbs of American St. Louis (Missouri) participants in protests against arbitrariness and racial discrimination by law enforcement officials on Wednesday tried to take a police station. While not successful. But we know - the main thing to start. Is not it?
     
  10. Jeannette

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    It depends on whether you are talking about the majority of the people in a country, or their government which is usually under pressure from Washington. Hungary refuses to go against Russia and is fearful the US might try a coup like in Ukraine. The majority of the people in Georgia want to restore their centuries old relationship with Russia, but there too they are fearful of a coup. I know the Greek people too want to restore their traditional relationship with Russia, but again the government is fearful of the US and what it might do...

    China is joining Russia in everything now because it feels the US cannot fight both of them if they are united, and India is now going to trade with Russia in Rupee and Rubles rather than the American dollar. Right now there are thirty countries that want trade with the Eurasian Union headed by Russia so they stop using the American dollar and trade in their own currencies. Anyway these are only a few examples.


    When Russia gets paid in dollars, they are traded immediately for physical gold. The dollar is not circulating in Russia, so I don't know what you're talking about.


    Oil was only seventeen percent of Russia's profit. It has its gas deals with China, Turkey, Europe, etc., not to mention all the other minerals it supplies the world with. It also has its arms industries. Russia is an export nation, so when it's paid in dollars and they are exchanged into Rubles it goes very far in Russia. Since people are only buying domestic products rather than imported ones, they haven't suffered at all.

    You mean the nation which is causing it, and it is a cause for war. This is why Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

    Only the nations which are fearful of the US. India decided to invest in Crimea the same day that the US imposed sanctions on Crimea, and China is investing hundreds of billions in Siberia. You know the US might control the EU but it can't fight the world, and especially the combined economies and defense of Russia and China...unless Washington attacks before they've completed their integration. This is what some people are fearful of.

    Washington started the cold war intentionally when it instigated the coup in Ukraine and flaunted their involvement by joining the protesters... and especially at a time when the games were going on at Socchi.


    There hasn't been any inflation, although they are expecting some the first quarter of this year.


    There isn't any panic buying because the people are paid in Rubles, and they buy in Rubles. The Russian budget exceeded itself this year. Alpha when nations want to build up their economy, they deliberately drop the value of their currency. What the weak Ruble did, is stop the Russian tourists from going to the EU. Now they vacation in Russia.

    To no avail.

    Only those with a large population of Russians. It was a propaganda ploy of the US.

    Actually Russia has now decided to give pensions to anyone who served in the Soviet army and who lives outside of Russia. Last year it added pensions to Russians living in Estonia, so I don't know what you're talking about. Russia is not a debtor nation, it is a creditor nation. Anything Obama has tried to do has failed...but there are a few things Russia could do that would throw the world into an economic chaos and destroy the US war machine. Get on to Paul Craig Roberts to find out how.
     
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    Poles lost national pride and identity after collapse of the USSR. They even cooperated with CIA, helping to torture people secretly. Now Poland is a satellite of EU and NATO.
     
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    Yes...Heroin production has increased dramatically but that was never supposed to be our problem nor were we supposed to be NATION BUILDING....as that is a concept created by POLITICIANS....not members of the U.S. Military and Special Forces and Special Teams.

    Before we even went in to Afghanistan we studied the History of that nation and saw that the one thing we must not get involved with was HOLDING LAND OR NATION BUILDING!!

    And at the beginning things went extremely well for us as at one point there were only about 200 Memebers of U.S. Military Special Forces and as well Special Teams directing Air Strikes and Lasing Targets that resulted in killing TEN'S OF THOUSANDS OF OUR ENEMY.

    Our immediate victories were stunning.

    THEN.....some idiot Politician decided to go NATION BUILDING in a place that is barely out of the Stone Age.

    As far as what the Soviet Union did in Afghanistan....it was slaughter of any and all Afghan's whether they were innocent or not.

    The Soviet Military flew in Choppers and dropped thousands upon thousands of tiny EXPLOSIVE TOYS...things like Colored Ink Pens and small Dolls and other Toys a kid or child if they found it would pick up.

    These TOYS were actually small explosive devices that when picked up off the ground would explode usually blowing off the hand or arm of a child or perhaps killing the kid.

    This is probably the most sickening thing the Soviet Union ever did.

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    Because there are several large U.S. Military Bases in Poland and the Poles absolutely LOVE the fact such American Bases exist there....I have been to those bases and have been to Poland many times.

    There are just as many people in the U.S. who are U.S. Citizen's that are either of Polish Decent or have a bit of Polish Decent in them as their are people living in Poland.

    The happiest day in the lives of all Poles was when their Soviet Forced Communist Government of Poland was removed from power.

    Poles do NOT like Russian's.

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    Yeah....the ONLY thing Russia could do short of Military Action which against U.S. and NATO Forces would be a disaster for Russia....would be to stop selling Natural Gas to Europe.

    Now this isn't going to happen as it would essentially be Russia cutting their own throat and the United States could make up such an Energy Shortfall by several methods although there is no doubt such Russian action would cause economic chaos in Europe.

    But the economic chaos such an action would have in Europe is NOTHING to the disasterous effect it would have upon Russia itself.

    Look...Russia has a very small Economy with a GDP of just about $2 Trillion.

    China has a Economy with a GDP of about $6 Trillion.

    That's $8 Trillion together and $8 Trillion in influence.

    The E.U. has a GDP of $15.6 Trillion.
    The U.K. has a GDP of $2.8 Trillion.
    Japan has a GDP of $4.9 Trillion.

    The United States has a GDP of $17.7 Trillion

    Total....$50 Trillion.....United States and it's Allies.

    Total....$8 Trillion....Russia and China.

    Even if you added in BRIC.....the total GDP would still only be arounf $10 Trillion vs $50 Trillion.

    See where I am going here?

    AboveAlpha..p.s...I did not even include Canada or Australia.
     
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    Very funny. Goebbels jealous of you you. You describe American methods of the Vietnam War. Do you understand this? Very funny.
    For your education. Besides min toys, Americans in Vietnam have used various types of toxic substances, including: BZ, CS, CNS, BAE, CN, DM. Also, according to the US Department of Defense, the Americans sprayed from airplanes and helicopters in Vietnam 72 million liters of defoliant "Agent Orange", including 44 million liters, containing dioxin - one of the most insidious poisons known to man.
    If we talk about the crimes in Afghanistan, remember the use of the US military unmanned aerial vehicles. And bombardment with them.
    On torture, officially approved by the US government, we say?

    Remember the words of John Silver? - "Do not throw stones, especially if you live in a glass house."
     
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    This so excellent. So much thank for amusement. (sic)

    Oh, I see. You're a nastalgiya (sic) comrade who's still mad about Perestroika. We see your soviet failure and raise you a glasnost. Iz vinitzche while I chuckle to myself before I continue.

    Listen, Sergei, we couldn't give a flying blue (*)(*)(*)(*). You couldn't in your wildest imagination be as cool as we are, and we could obliterate you in a minute. You're only around because you amuse us.

    Oh, do tell, Iron Curtain. Spout international rhetoric so we can take notes.

    You may be smarter than you sound. Hey, here's a good idea. How about we enlist a few thousand volunteer black Americans to fly from our state Missouri to Russia, and we can Skype about how it's going? Maybe we could get a few pointers. One thing, just make sure you don't say "Hands up". They wouldn't like it if you said it.
     
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    It was really funny. Although I did not understand half of what you're saying. But it was still funny.
    And why "Sergei"? According to the laws of the genre should be "Ivan". Nay. Well here so - "Ivan the Ripper". So say the Western media?
    (Then you write a random collection of words. Perestroika, vinitzche, Flying Blue, Spout international rhetoric, Iron Curtain.... I'm not a psychiatrist, so I can not answer.)

    Again. I'm not a psychiatrist and I can not answer you. But maybe your strange logic will help you name at least one war where the United States yourself won? Just do not humiliate himself by saying the victory over Panama, or the like. Tell us about defeating worthy (equal to) the enemy.

    About the "black volunteers" was particularly funny. You do not need to fly to Russia. You can, for starters, to fly to New York. Brighton Bich. In Russia cold and drunk bears. Napoleon and Hitler could tell you more.
     
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    Although the United States has made it's mistakes...it always amazes me when anyone attempts to defend the past actions of the Soviet Union....a Communist Nation with a leader....Stalin...who is responsible for the deaths of over 20 Million OF HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!

    Stalin created a Program of FORCED RELOCATION....as Stalin felt that the Soviet People were all too concentrated in specific urban areas on the Soviet Union and that the only way to spread the Soviet Poulation out to cover and thus be able to guard the massive area that was the Soviet Union in which SIBERIA was and still is almost comletely uninhabited....Stalin used the Soviet Military to round up MILLIONS OF SOVIET PEOPLE.

    These people were rounded up and allowed to take just what they could carry and placed in trucks or in trains and then DUMPED OFF IN PREDETERMINED AREAS ALL ACROSS SIBERIA!!

    Stalin just left them in small groups all over Northern Asia and Stalin NEVER helped resupply such people and most DIED in a very short time after being Forced Relocated.

    So as the Soviet Union was quite possibly the single most corrupt system and form of governent the world has ever seen.....let's all just be happy we won't ever have to see it again.

    Such a system...and the people who advocated it belong upon the scrap heap of history.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Do yourself and other Russian Members a favor and stop pretending that the Russian Military is in any way capable to do anymore than terrorize some unarmed Ukrainian Citizen's are train a bunch of MORON RUSSIAN SEPERATISTS to accidentally shoot down a COMMERCIAL AIRLINER because members of Spetsnaz could not be bothered with properly training and explaining how to identify and tell the difference between a COMMERCIAL JET....and a Military Aircraft!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Stalin killed 20 million people in Russia? You can prove your words?
     
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    "In February 1989, two years before the fall of the Soviet Union, a research paper by Georgian historian Roy Aleksandrovich Medvedev published in the weekly tabloid Argumenti i Fakti estimated that the death toll directly attributable to Stalin’s rule amounted to some 20 million lives (on top of the estimated 20 million Soviet troops and civilians who perished in the Second World War), for a total tally of 40 million.

    ''It's important that they published it, although the numbers themselves are horrible,'' Medvedev told the New York Times at the time.

    ''Those numbers include my father.''

    Medevedev's grim bookkeeping included the following tragic episodes: 1 million imprisoned or exiled between 1927 to 1929; 9 to 11 million peasants forced off their lands and another 2 to 3 million peasants arrested or exiled in the mass collectivization program; 6 to 7 million killed by an artificial famine in 1932-1934; 1 million exiled from Moscow and Leningrad in 1935; 1 million executed during the ''Great Terror'' of 1937-1938; 4 to 6 million dispatched to forced labor camps; 10 to 12 million people forcibly relocated during World War II; and at least 1 million arrested for various “political crimes” from 1946 to 1953."
    http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789
     
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    About downed aircraft you told on Fox News? Again, you do funny. Maybe you did not know, but the investigation of the crash is not finished. And by the way, you might have noticed how silent all the Western media about the involvement of the crash of Russia and the rebels. You do not have to write nonsense. Then do not have to apologize.

    Incidentally Russian military can turn America into dust in one second. But you have to be afraid of another. You are waiting for racial conflicts.
    Black - White - Latinos. Japanese - Korean - Chinese. Immigrants from India and Pakistanis.....In general, all against all.
    Soon stop buying Treasuries - and hello to the new order. The Great Depression seem benchmark welfare compared with the new order.
    Here's what you need to be afraid, and do not lighten up.
     
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    You are an intelligent person. You can not believe everything you read in the media. Some media write about what Martians among us. Or aliens kidnapped American president and America now operates under the control of a Martian. By the way, judging by the behavior of Obama - believe in it unconditionally.
    It is not necessary to refer to the tabloids. Not so long ago, media wrote about weapons of mass destruction Saddam Hussein. Than it was over - it is known. Is not it? Once again. Do not have to believe everything that is written.
     
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    especially Russia's media
     
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