These States Invest The Least In Their Students

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    These States Invest The Least In Their Students

    The Huffington Post | By Rebecca Klein | Posted: 06/05/2014 8:59 pm EDT
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    "When it comes to funding public school students, some parts of the country shell out more dough than others.

    A new map compiled by research engine Findthebest.com shows which states provide the most funding for students' educations. New York state tops the list, with average funding per student of $21,168 , while Utah comes in last, with average funding per student of $7,388.

    The map, which uses federal, state and local data from the National Center for Education Statistics, is below:

    The link between education spending and student academic achievement is debated. On a school level, some studies have shown that increased spending has a significant benefit for low-income students. While the U.S. spends more on education than most industrialized nations, America often ranks mid-pack on international achievement tests.

    For what it's worth, though, the below map - also compiled by FindTheBest -- uses ACT, SAT, AP and National Assessment of Educational Progress scores to show which states have the highest achieving students:"

    see both graphs at link below:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/05/state-public-school-funding-_n_5455152.html
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    IMO: The inefficiency of school boards in not progressing in the wake of integration to maintain the standards of education even to not giving students the needed basic education to pass the common core tests to get into the armed services of our country.

    The failing standards of public schools, inferior teachers, and general disinterest of the public has now opened the new "charter schools" places where students enter a lottery to get a seat in a quasi-private school, privately run, expensive, excellent teachers....and the taxpayers of America get to pay for it all....failing public schools, and charter schools....

    The fraud, deception, and graft that is going into the charter schools is going to force the parents of children still in public schools to pay for both their children's non-education and the education of other children who got into the charter schools. Being privately run watch for the fees go steadily up in the charter schools, and parents straining even further to get their children a good education to be able to get into a good college.

    The republicans want to privatize everything to secure all the graft they can get out of it; they care -0- nothing about the education of your child or my child; they care only about how much they can grab from each taxpayer's pocketbook. The overwhelming factor should be a quality education for each and every child; it should not matter which state you live in. the standards should be the same for all schools or else it is discrimination of another kind.
     
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    The amount spent on each student has nothing to do with how much the student learns. We have seen that an unlimited amount of spending in the DC school system hasn't done much good.
     
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    And in your state of insanity you think that the average school board is dominated by Republicans?? Who do you think you are kidding 286? The people on the forum know what is going on with our schools and they know that you are a Soros troll.
     
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    1) Where did I say 'the average school board is dominated by republicans?' All you need to do is follow the money...Governors, state legislators, semi-privatized charter schools...all ripe for graft, fraud, and overpricing....education the republican way.

    2a) I hope the people on this forum are aware enough to see what is being done to the public schools for lack of funding by republican controlled states.

    2b) Define "Soros troll" before I report your azz
     
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    Things are more expensive in New York.



     
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    There are more residents in New York requiring more schools, transportation of students, different curriculum and programs, better teachers that are paid well with assistants that are paid well, are some of the reasons New York is more expensive than in Utah where schools are run by religious entities.​
     
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    When you're done attacking the messenger, can you please enlighten me: what is going on in our schools?
     
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    It Ain't teachin'.............

    It's all about hiring administrators, counselors, and support staff. The more folks you can get on the public dole, the better.

    Get a clue.
     
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    Pssstttt ...stop drawing attention to facts. :eekeyes:

    Schools should teach be teaching a technological trade skill, basics concepts of business, and process management by the 5th grade. I cant imagine how much farther ahead I'd be right now if there had been engineering classes available to me.

    But no, we teach force socialist rhetoric into their brains via multiculturalism and the "teach to the lowest common denominator" method.

    Some day I'll have kids and I'd like to think I'd be in a community where I could find other business professionals to do the whole group home school thing.
     
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    Don't worry.........By then the NEA and their cohorts in government will make that stuff illegal.

    It's comin' guys.
     
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    Its all about the DNA and IQs of the students nothing to do with funding........if a dog can't jump over a fence then no amount of red meat on the other side or beatings on this side can make him jump over the fence.
     
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    How do you figure out if the dog can't jump over the fence?



     
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    The same way you figure out if your dog can jump up on the bed............derp
     
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    Which is?



     
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    SAT Score Statistics
    Statistic Verification
    Source: The College Board
    Research Date: 4.28.2013
    State Avg Score
    1 Iowa 1813
    2 Wisconsin 1784
    3 Minnesota 1782
    4 Missouri 1779
    5 Illinois 1775
    6 Michigan 1762
    7 South Dakota 1758
    8 Nebraska 1753
    9 North Dakota 1749
    10 Kansas 1734
    11 Kentucky 1707
    12 Oklahoma 1703
    13 Tennessee 1701
    14 Arkansas 1700
    15 Colorado 1698
    16 Wyoming 1685
    17 Mississippi 1680
    18 Louisiana 1676
    19 Alabama 1658
    20 Utah 1657
    21 New Mexico 1633
    22 Ohio 1606
    23 Montana 1602
    24 Idaho 1601
    25 Washington 1563
    26 New Hampshire 1557
    27 Massachusetts 1551
    28 Oregon 1548
    29 Vermont 1543
    30 Connecticut 1535
    31 Arizona 1534
    32 Alaska 1528
    33 Virginia 1522
    34 California 1511
    35 West Virginia 1511
    36 New Jersey 1506
    37 Maryland 1489
    38 Rhode Island 1489
    39 North Carolina 1487
    40 Nevada 1485
    41 Indiana 1484
    42 Delaware 1478
    43 Pennsylvania 1478
    44 Florida 1476
    45 Texas 1468
    46 New York 1466
    47 Georgia 1461
    48 South Carolina 1453
    49 Hawaii 1451
    50 Maine 1391
    51 DC 1379
     
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    We realize that the SHELL-SHOCKED OBAMAPOLOGISTS are desperate to try to talk about ANYTHING BUT "CURRENT EVENTS", but this IS the "Current Events" forum. What is your thread doing here?
     
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    So, are you telling me that California, one of the most liberal states in the union, is on the low side when it comes to school funding? What? Say it ain't so. Could it be the Mexican problem?
     
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    This is a list of states which spend MORE than the national average per student and who's students rank BELOW the national average on SAT's These are the states which are getting the LEAST return on their education investment.
    New York 12.67
    District of Columbia 13.40
    Alaska 10.91
    New Jersey 10.26
    Vermont 10.32
    Connecticut 10.16
    Massachusetts 8.99
    Maryland 9.32
    Rhode Island 9.28
    Pennsylvania 9.11
    New Hampshire 9.02
    Delaware 8.58
    Hawaii 8.27
    West Virginia 7.84
    Maine 8.22

    These states spend BELOW the national average per student and rank ABOVE the national average on SAT's. These are the states which are getting the BEST return on their education investment.
    Nebraska 6.18
    Michigan 6.14
    Illinois 6.07
    Louisiana 6.40
    Minnesota 6.01
    Montana 6.64
    Iowa 5.41
    Kansas 5.48
    Missouri 5.29
    Arkansas 5.50
    Kentucky 5.45
    New Mexico 5.55
    Alabama 5.32
    South Dakota 5.01
    Colorado 5.14
    Tennessee 4.85
    Mississippi 4.72
    Oklahoma 4.46
    Idaho 4.26
    Utah 3.75

    States which spend ABOVE national average and have ABOVE average SAT's
    Wyoming 9.41
    Wisconsin 6.60
    North Dakota 6.53
    Ohio 6.99

    States which spend BELOW national average with SAT's BELOW national average.
    Virginia 6.81
    Oregon 6.25
    Washington 6.07
    Indiana 6.31
    Georgia 6.33
    California 6.05
    South Carolina 6.18
    Florida 6.02
    Texas 5.91
    Nevada 5.74
    North Carolina 5.59
    Arizona 5.00

    The accompanying number is the cost per SAT point for each state.
     
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    The US doesn't spend more than "most" nations, it spends more than all nations.

    While praising New York's expenditures they declined to mention that New York has the countries' most racially segregated schools. A lot of that funding goes towards policies that indirectly promote racial segregation.

    Scholastic success has to come from the parents and the students, the US is living proof that spending almost 3x as much as the next guy does not guarantee results, or that expanding government and union power guarantees nothing.

    In South Korea, the high school principal of those kids who drowned on a ferry committed suicide. American school unions would have defended his right to keep his job for decades and probably handed him a bonus that year too.
     
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    How much of that relates to the cost of living in that area? Living in NYS is a lot more expensive than living in Utah.


    Here is a cost of living map. It pretty much coincides with the educational spending map.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/US_states_by_GDP_per_capita_(nominal).PNG

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    Please show evidence that Utah schools are run by religious entities.

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    SAT data means almost nothing. For example, in AL, the state colleges don't use the SAT, they use the ACT. Hence, the only students taking the SAT are the ones that have higher ambitions--the reason their scores are high.
     
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    Did you bother to look at the maps at the link.. or are you just shooting from the hip again?
     
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    I'm sure there are a number of factors, some common and others unique to the different states which influence both education expenditures and the quality of education. Teacher salaries, cost of living, union and non union influence... I'm sure we can come up with more. My very point is that the quality of education is at best very tentatively related to the amount of funds invested. HuffBlow, by publishing the two maps in conjunction with one another, artfully leads the willful idiots to the false narrative that more money leads to higher quality education.
     

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