They hunted and killed a baby elephant!

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  1. yasureoktoo

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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Oh and as for your claim that poachers kill off mature bull elephants, that is another lie by the hunting community.

    "Generally older larger bulls will have younger, more alert bulls in attendance and they often raise the alarm or cause problems by always seeming to be in the way of the path to the larger bull."

    https://www.huntinafrica.com/elephant-hunting/
    Target is the older larger bulls!


    German hunter 'pays £39,000 to shoot biggest elephant killed in Africa for 30 years'
    https://www.independent.co.uk/envir...t-killed-in-africa-for-30-years-a6696151.html
     
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    Do you even read what you post? First you state "the hunting community blames poachers with no proof at all". Then in the next sentence, you state "hunting companies and safaris accepted money from poachers to shoot anything they liked".

    Then you post an article about a denied claim that tribal officials used illegal political influence to get hunting licences for people.
     
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    Wow one elephant was shot by a guy who paid for the privileged and that means poachers are not a problem. Glue should be used for sticking things together not sniffing.

    Here is a quote from your posted article.
    "Elephants are being killed at such a rate – mainly by poachers – that there are fears they could become extinct within a generation"

    Here is a quote from your other posted article.
    "Elephant hunting is allowed in African countries where their populations are stable, adequately protected and well managed. Perhaps of all endangered species, African elephants are the least likely to disappear because of what they are!

    They are the last surviving mega fauna of the world and the biggest threat they face is human encroachment into their habitat and not trophy hunting."

    Here is an article on poachers.
    100,000 Elephants Killed by Poachers in Just Three Years, Landmark Analysis Finds
    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140818-elephants-africa-poaching-cites-census/
     
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    The article states that hunting companies gave out illegal licenses to anyone who paid them! ie it's the hunting companies who are the source of poachers. Which bit don't you understand?
    The whole business of trophy hunting is corrupt
     
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    Wow, one company is accused of giving out illegal licenses so that makes the whole industry corrupt? Only a complete imbecile would make that claim.
     
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    My god, which bit don't you get? It is the hunting companies who are the source of the poachers. They are paid by the poachers. Hence there is no difference between hunters and so called poachers The link is from a hunting company and states that they hunt the biggest bull elephant directly contradicting your claim that "it was not hunters that killed off the mature bull elephants it was poachers". The lies from hunting companies are directed at people like you. The whole business of trophy hunting is corrupt
     
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    That was really, really, really, friggin dumb.
     
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    So you did not even bother to read the article. "The diplomatic cable named professional hunters Guy Whitall, Tim Schultz of African Dream Safaris, Headman Sibanda and Wayne Grant of Nyala Safaris, Evans Makanza, Alan Shearing, Buzz Charlton and James Macullum of Charlton Macullum Safaris. Brothers Alan Van Heerden and Barry Van Heerden were also named,"

    Can you not count or can you not read? Oh, as you're quite slow, Charlton Macullum Saffaries is the company that organised the killing of the 4 year old elephant,
     
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    I gave up. You can't cure stupid.
     
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    You've finally accepted that you're stupid, that is the first step to being cured and the first step is always the hardest.
     
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    Just as I suspected you are so dumb you don't even know you are dumb.
     
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    While the Right denies Climate Change, extinction of species in our era is on a fast train to hell.
    The human generation of the future, if they survive, will never know of an elephant, lion,rhino, giraffe, and many, many others. Many species I can't even name are already gone.
     
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    Extinction is very rare now compared to many periods before man. Let evolution do it’s magic. Super apes have no business meddling in the process. Let the super apes rampage like the dinosaurs and one day a truly superior species will result from the selection pressures.
     
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    As time goes on right now, I wonder if to preserve our species,
    we need to get rid of others near the top of their respective food chain.
     
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    The motivation and mindset of the hunters.
     
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    You are entitled to your misinformed opinion.
     
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    Please provide credible nonpartisan substantiation for your allegation.
     
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    I"m a member of the NRA.
    Please kiss my ass, for making such a dumb statement.,
     
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    Thank you for proving me to be 100% correct about NRA supporters!
     
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    the above statement makes no coherent sense. Clarify.
     
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    It was a direct answer to YOUR question.

    If you cannot understand your own question that is NOT my problem.
     
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    Not much he says makes sense.
     
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    Ironic projection duly noted for the record.
     
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    Cease the degenerate banter and contribute something of relevance.
     

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