They hunted and killed a baby elephant!

Discussion in 'Firearms and Hunting' started by truth and justice, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Pipette8

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    Africans working for the Chinese kill more big game than white men.
     
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    Size matters?
     
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    Or just breed them in pens and slaughter them as needed.

    There is hunting and then there is shooting...two different things. As for fair? What does that mean other than something subjective.

    Interesting, I have heard similar suggestions. I can’t tell you how many animals I have encountered with festering wounds inflicted by archers. There is a fellow or two posting videos on YouTube hunting various game with a blowgun (no poison), including black bear. Is it fair? Would I do it? I did when I was among a group of indigenous people in the Orinoco Basin in SA back in the 80’s...it was one means of their getting their source of protein. They used a poison...was it fair?

    I paid my way through college and graduate school, making money and sustenance from hunting. I was always licensed (had no issue paying the fees for the use they were applied to), and had developed a set of personal (they were just that...not advocated to be foisted on others) ethics. My ethics included, never shooting an animal (with a gun, round or a distance) I wasn’t confident of a clean kill and never waisted any kill, and practiced conservation by being aware of any species’ population vulnerability. While I rarely hunt anymore, I fish frequently, I practice catch and careful release, only harvesting an accidental kill (I.e., hook in the gills, over exhausted catch, etc.). I have never trophy hunted. Those are my ethics, I expect no one to follow mine, but I know many that have theirs. That said, I do like AK’s approach to their hunting/fishing laws... worth checking out.
    As for those going places and expending massive fees for licenses and guide services to do Trophy hunting, that is between them, their personal ethics, their conscience, and the governing authority; I assign no judgement of morality on it.
     
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    How old was the elephant? Would Northam have called it an abortion?

    I’m no fan of trophy hunting, but at least it wasn’t a baby.
     
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    The elephant was about the same age as these children:
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    390 × 280
     
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    The average life expectancy rate of an elephant, depending on subspecies, is anywhere between forty eight and seventy. By such standards the elephant in question would qualify as being far older than the children in the above image.
     
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    The life expectancy of humans was less than fifty 100 years ago and a four year old child then was still only 4 years old. 4 year old elephants are just as dependent on its parents as a 4 year old child is on its parents. In fact a young elephant relies on its mother milks for longer than a human child relies on its mother's milk
     
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    So you would prefer they hunt?
     
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    I just looked at the photo, that is not a "baby elephant".

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    That thing has it's back even with a full grown man's chest. That thing is damned near fully grown, and people are calling it a "baby".

    Yea, this is why I take threads like this as a complete joke. Basically a bunch of idiots lying, and beating their chests and screaming, and relying upon nobody taking the time to actually check out their story.
     
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    No, it was not.

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    Once again, you prove that your name has to be sarcasm, because this post lacks either. Going by the size of the tusks and how high up it's back rests compared to the men behind it, this was an already mature elephant, and not a "child". And certainly not a "baby".

    I am curious, did you even bother to look at the photo in the link before you made this decision?
     
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    And once again, no it is not.

    Elephants are weaned by the age of 2 years. And as a herbivore that is also a herd animal, it is not all that dependent upon their mother. This is a survival trait built into such herbivores as insurance that the child lives on in the event the other is killed.

    You really do not understand animal behavior either, do you?
     
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    These scumbags should be dragged into the street and have bullets put into the back of their heads.
     
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    What legitimate purpose would such ultimately serve?
     
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    Well, it shows that he is a violent individual who believes in mob rule and lynching other than the rule of law.
     
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    Those tusks are close to three feet long.
    African elephants start growing tusks at 6-12 months; they grow ~7" per year.
    Thus:
    This is not a baby.
     
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    Maybe the elephant is really a Democrat (RINO)

    Democrats are always acting like babies.
     
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    To the best of my knowledge you cannot legally hunt baby elephants. You can get a license and hunt adult elephants but not baby elephants so what they did was not hunting, it was poaching.
     
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    That would be incredibly stupid, the point of ethical hunting is to cleanly harvest game. This uninformed mentality, leads to wounding of game. When someone says it. it's very evident they have no idea about ethical hunting.
     
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    some types of elephant are small. so far as I know, theres no evidence of the elephants age besides its size in the picture, which does not make it a baby.
     
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    So??

    Does that make it right?
     
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    :roll::roll::roll:

    Google BEFORE you post

    Yes there are small breeds of elephants - they are only found on Borneo
     
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    I abhor trophy hunting, especially such a beast. That being said, the point of hunting (common game animals for meat) is to effect a sure and clean kill. It's not "fair" or some game. You dont shoot at a deer from 400 yards to make it "fair" or give it a "chance"....such tomfoolery serves to wound game, chances are that such wounded game, goes unharvested to die a slow death.

    It really irks me to hear people advocate such. You only take clean, kill shots, within the CERTAIN level of your ability. The goal is to get as close as you can and use enough gun. Playing "fair" with primitive bows and spears, is the height of cruelty. Only people totally ignorant of hunting, advocate, such stupidity.

    I'm not for any form of elephant hunting, unless it's self defense, of you or others or culling a herd (if really needed)
     
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    What a great idea!

    I did, and I learned that baby elephants tusks are only a few centimeters, not typically even visible, and fall out like baby teeth in humans, at which point the permanant tusks start growing, to become visible around 2 to 3 years of age and grow at a rate of 15-18 centimeters per year. The elephant in the image has the tusks of an adult.

    http://elephant.elehost.com/About_Elephants/Anatomy/Dentition/dentition.html
     
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    Nope!

    Young ADOLESCENT at most!

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