They should just let black descendants of slaves be tax free

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  1. Aquarius

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    Like native Americans are.

    it would boost their generational wealth without ****ing up us economically
     
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    I'd wager the vast majority can't trace their ancestry back to slaves. A lot of them don't even know who their fathers are today.
     
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    When you say "tax free", do you just mean income tax? Because half the country pays no tax, already. I think the filing threshold is $12,000, if memory serves.
     
  4. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Most already are.
     
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    Native Americans pay federal taxes. Native American TRIBES do not pay taxes as corporate entities.

    What is "generational wealth"? What percent of Americans have "generational wealth"? Economic studies show inherited wealth last about 3 generations and then is so dissipated or totally lost it has no economic impact. Blacks are citizens like anyone else and owe taxes like anyone else to say otherwise is discriminatory and racist.
     
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    if people want all races treated the same, then stop wanting some to be treated differently than others
     
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    Such a simple concept of equal rights and equal treatment and that content of character thingy seems to escape so many.
     
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    They don’t have the education to conceptualize, let alone appreciate, the concept of money not taxed is money made.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    That of course is the flaw with all of these reparations schemes; determining who qualifies. Unless you are just going to go with a paper bag test it would be difficult and expensive for most people to do that sort of genealogical research.
     
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    Um….no. They can all F off as far as I’m concerned.
     
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    What do you think earned income credit is?
     
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    And it would choose winners and losers, something federal government should avoid like the plague.
     
  13. Just A Man

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    Bonehead idea. Why is it so difficult for so many to agree to the concept of "equal treatment for all"?
     
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    what about the dependents of slave owners, many slave owners got black slave women pregnant - many black slaves got white slave owning women pregnant too
     
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    are you saying less than half the country make less than 12k?
     
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    The Trump economy gave them the biggest freedom of all: a job. For once American employers had to hire blacks because they ran out of Mexican border hoppers and ex cons.
    Blacks are 100% American. They are not anymore African than Trump or Biden is.
     
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    that would be hard to do. For starters, with DNA tests, what would be the threshold? 25%, 10%, 1% in which you are related to an ancestor who was a slave, if that can be proven.
     
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    I'm saying that the requirement to file is (or was) about $12K. And, additionally, about half the country pays no tax already anyway, so, the OP's proposal isn't very effective.
     
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    He11, the federal government can't even figure out what veterans are entitled to VA benefits. How are they going to sort out who is a descendent of a slave.

    By the way, if they are going to pay descendants of slave owners, they should pay the descendants of Union soldiers for freeing them. Additionally, if our ancestors were not slave owners, we should not have to pay our share of taxes which goes to descendants of slaves.
     
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    what job? minimum wage jobs or trying to get them to work in the slaughter houses like before?
     
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    IF President Johnson hadn’t countermanded General Sherman’s promise of “40 acres and a mule”, IF we hadn’t had discriminatory lending practices in the first half, and beyond, of the 20th Century, IF discrimination hadn’t been our national paradigm through the 60’s, IF so many things.

    We “freed” 10’s of thousands of uneducated people who had nothing more than the clothes on their backs. And not only didn’t help them, “we” have done our best to make life as hard as possible for them and, then have the temerity to look down on them for their inability to thrive. It’s mind boggling … :shock:

    I agree giving them tax amnesty, at this point, probably wouldn’t be much help. But should be the starting point for those it would help. We should have programs to go into impoverished neighborhoods and offer financial and lifestyle counseling for all poor people, not just people of color. And we should have programs to help poor Americans understand how small changes bring about increased self respect. We SHOULD be making consistent efforts to give poor Americans a hand UP.

    “We” should be educating these people in trades and occupations. And for those with the ability and interest, higher education prep courses to get them ready for college.

    None of that should be looked on as “freebies”. Investing in poor would increase tax revenues, decrease crime and increase property values while decreasing urban blight and civil unrest. The benefit to society would be exponential.
     
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  22. Just A Man

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    What was said was the filing requirement. It's true some do not have to file annually due to their low total gross income.
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    From the WWW -- In total, about 59.9 percent of U.S. households paid income tax in 2022. The remaining 40.1 percent of households paid no individual income tax. In that same year, about 47.1 percent of U.S. households with an income between 40,000 and 50,000 U.S. dollars paid no individual income taxes.
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    That shoots holes in the politicians' claim and poor people's claim that the rich pay no taxes -- and the stupid media never corrects them.
     
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    "In that same year, about 47.1 percent of U.S. households with an income between 40,000 and 50,000 U.S. dollars paid no individual income taxes."

    so that would be a bunch of poor people living together, I guess
     
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    Black media household income is $46400
    US median household income is $74580
    So, there's a very good chance that these people play little to no federal income tax to begin with, and so would receive little to no benefit from this.

    Thus, I approve - we, collectively and individually. don't owe these people anything
     
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    No, they start at entry level like everyone else, learn their job and get raises with everyone else.
     
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