Thirteen-year-old girl is forced to give birth under Mississippi abortion ban

The ripple effect cause most abortion providers to shut down, and many more refuse to do them because of potential liability which is why we see cases where women are almost dying because their fetus is dead but no one will remove it.

Most of the rape exceptions require the individual to file a report and name the assailant which sexual abuse experts have shown the trauma prevents some from doing so.

You can wish this wasn’t a Republican problem — but it will remain so.

 

Most people agree that beyond viability the fetus should have protections. Prior to that it should be the choice of the mother.

If that’s what had happened in the courts the red caps wouldn’t have been demolished in 2022 and will likely face further losses going forward.

How many places has abortion remained banned when left up to a vote by the people?

 

Prove it.
Then prove this matters here.

Prove it.
Then prove this matters here.

You wish this was a Republican problem, and your hyper-partisan bigotry prevents you from seeing it as anything else.

 

It is a state issue and I cannot find any compelling state interest in banning abortion prior to viability

 

Easy to say when it is not your license. home, family or livelihood on the line.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/21/us/abortion-ban-exceptions.html

And this was before roe vs. wade was overturned. I can only imagine the anti-abortionionists are more overly zealous these days.

 

Had the Democrats approved the 20 week national law, we wouldn't be having this argument. They didn't want to lose their cash cow of the continued abortion debate.

 

Kids are fine and are still enlisting and fighting. People that go around insulting the younger generation are only making themselves look bad, since the world has changed.

 

Kyle Rittenhouse should never have been given a rifle and sent into that area

 

-Still- upset about the fact he was able to defend himself?

 

Wouldn't have mattered. Some state would have challenged the constitutionality of the ban saying it's state's rights.

 

Soooo...

The girl had 15 weeks after the rape to get an abortion. Here parents were not informed, and nobody noticed. Then, other options were presented, like traveling out of the area, and those were inconvenient. Lastly, she was raped which would validate the abortion outside 15 weeks, but they didn't do that.

But... republicans fault?

 

Shhhhh!!
There's a narrative to push!!!!

 

Um.. Yes. Absolutely.

Any reasonable and logical person can see that $900 is a whole lot cheaper than 18 years of child rearing both in financial cost and lost potential for the mother. That's a no-brainer.

 

I'm pro-choice.

And I am far more a Constitutionalist.

 

Then you know the constitution is not intended to be a definitive list of all our rights.

 

Never said that, but my compliments on your false claims. I'm sure some people are proud of sending a naive 17 yr old into a riot area alone without a clue.

 

Yadda yadda yadda.
Not guilty x5.

 

It is, however, a list of all the rights specifically protected by the constitution.

 

No, I do NOT believe that.

The system in Miss. treats abortions for rape victims as exceptions that one would need to apply for. Essentially zero such applications are granted.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...ons.html?login=smartlock&auth=login-smartlock

You can't write that off to their being a standard practice of lying.

“Having the legal right on the books to get an abortion and getting one in practice are two distinctly different things,” said Laurie Bertram Roberts, the executive director of the Mississippi Reproductive Freedom Fund, a group that supports abortion rights.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...ons.html?login=smartlock&auth=login-smartlock

You can't claim that this girl could have gotten an abortion. The girl's mother made every effort to get an abortion in Miss. When that failed, she worked out the costs of getting her daughter an abortion in a different state. That turned out to be beyond the financial means of the family.

You can't claim that she could have gotten an abortion in Mississippi.

 

The problem is that rape victims are not getting this rape exception that you claim exists.

The idea that Miss gets off the hook for FAILING to serve its population on the grounds that people can get their health care services out of state is just absolute garbage.

 

There is NOTHING in our constitution concerning rights of fetuses.

And, it IS the woman's body. There are numerous factors related to the woman's health that affect the survivability of a fetus.

The idea that the health of the fetus is more important than the life of the woman is just unbelievable BS.

 

Clearly, your ability to comprehend is in question. It proves the opposite, that contempt for Trump is rational.

Those accusations are founded in real events, and a reasonable. The recent 4 indictments with over 90 felony counts is consistent with the claim.

You are living in some kind of bizarro world of which I have no clue what it is, but reality it ain't.

 

??? The person at risk gets to decide how much risk is OK.

This goes on EVERY DAY in hospitals, as patients make decisions concerning healthcare options.

Your parenting thing is just total BS. Parents of underage children have healthcare decision making authority. In various circumstances such as abortion, doctors will not perform the procedure if the underage girl refuses it, even if the parents want it.

You just don't seem to have any understanding or even interest in healthcare decision making.

 

Why would they? Republicans were not willing to make any concessions and it would have only banned more abortions throughout the nation while not affording women to make the decision in early term

 

How do you get that? It seems very reasonable to me.
Highlights:

• This legislation protects unborn babies after 20 weeks or five months, more than halfway through pregnancy.

• The United States is one of only seven countries that allows on-demand abortions past 20 weeks. The other six are: North Korea, China, Vietnam, Singapore, Canada, and the Netherlands. Pain-Capable legislation has already passed in South Carolina and other states. They include Ohio, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Indiana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Idaho, Iowa, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, and Arizona.

• Advances in modern medicine help babies born at 20, 21 and 22 weeks post-fertilization survive outside the womb. The pain these babies feel outside the womb gives evidence to the pain their unborn counterparts feel while in utero.

• Ultrasounds show unborn babies at 20 weeks sucking their thumb, yawning, stretching and making faces.

Summary of Provisions:

• The Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act would make it illegal for any person to perform, or attempt to perform, an abortion without first making a determination of the probable post-fertilization age of the unborn child.

• If the post-fertilization age of the unborn child is determined to be 20 weeks or greater, an abortion shall not be performed, unless –
  • It is necessary to save the life of the pregnant woman;
  • The pregnancy is a result of rape and the woman has received medical treatment or counseling at least 48 hours prior to the abortion; or if she chooses to do so, has made a report to law enforcement; or
  • The pregnancy is a result of rape or incest against a minor and the abuse is reported to either social services or law enforcement.

• In the case of the exceptions –
  • the abortion may only proceed in a manner that provides the best opportunity for the unborn child to survive unless that would pose a greater risk of death or serious bodily injury to the pregnant woman; and
  • the abortion provider must receive informed consent from the pregnant woman, certifying that she has been provided the child’s gestational age, a description of the law, and her rights under the law.

• A woman on whom an abortion was performed in violation of this Act may bring a civil action against the abortion provider in court to recover damages.

• Abortion doctors are required to submit annual data to the National Center for Health and Statistics providing statistical information about abortions carried out after 20 weeks post-fertilization age.

• The criminal punishment for a violation of this Act is imprisonment of up to five years, fines, or both.

• The Act makes clear that a woman who receives an illegal abortion in violation of this act may not be prosecuted.