This nurse says she saw the covid vaccine causing injuries

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    There are seventeen graphs. Nine of them show no increase in all-cause mortality before the vaccine rollout and an increase in it after the vaccine rollout.. Eight of them show an increase in all-cause mortality before the vaccine rollout.
     
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    Hey @Scott Clearly the USA data SPIKE is before the vaccine rollout!
     
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    @Scott Here is what I observed:
    Argentina: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Australia: Bulk of first dose no correlation and ACM actually tails off!
    Bolivia: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Brazil: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Chile: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!

    Colombia: Numerous significant ACM spikes occurred before vaccine rollout, largest spike began BEFORE rollout!
    Ecuador: Ludicrous that you even post this! ACM spike occurred a year before vaccine rollout!
    Malaysia: Looks close, but once again the ACM spike began BEFORE vaccine rollout!
    New Zealand: Not even close to a correlation!
    Paraguay: ACM spike BEFORE rollout!
    Peru: Ridiculous, not even close!
    Philippines: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!

    Singapore: ACM spikes occurred well after vaccine rollout and showed no correlation whatsoever!
    South Africa: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    Suriname: No correlation and the main ACM spike began and reached near its peak before vaccine rollout!
    Thailand: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout! Continuation has zero statistical correlation!
    Uruguay: Spike appears to occur at the same time, but the correlation between dose and ACM is not even close to significant. Continued spikes show zero correlation.

    Which 8 are you claiming? You are totally misrepresenting the data.
     
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    See post above! Now YOU explain the countries that you say don't fit! All you are doing is saying "hey look at my link, this person says this". YOU explain it!

    The link in post 147 has NO REFERENCE whatsoever to the USA! Try again:
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    Now, clearly the big spike begins in September 2020, hits a peak beginning of December! Rollout began in the USA in the middle of December on the 14th and didn't ramp up in earnest until 2021. Now what? Are you seriously still going to deny this?
    Hey @Scott Clearly the USA data SPIKE is before the vaccine rollout!
     
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    Meaningless arm waving. The Vaccine rollout occurs AFTER the spike in ACM! Clearly the vaccine rollout cannot have caused the upsurge in admissions.
     
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    It's all in post #147 but I'll post it again.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ence-with-covid.613193/page-7#post-1074580917
     
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    In Northern California the hospitals filled up after.
     
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    deleted- redoing below.
     
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    Hilarious. Even when given SLAM_DUNK evidence showing the vaccine rollout occurred well after the spike of admissions/all cause mortality excesses! I concur no amount of evidence will suffice when the response is just going to be denial.
     
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    @Scott And you evaded the USA chart yet again! Why is that?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ausing-injuries.621607/page-7#post-1075018231

    I also said this:
    Now YOU explain the countries that you say don't fit! All you are doing is saying "hey look at my link, this person says this". YOU explain it!

    Meanwhile let's just pick one of your nine at random:
    The Philippines, I said this: ACM spike occurred before vaccine rollout!
    [​IMG]
     
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    You have no idea on when covid started or the vaccines rolled out in those countries. And what reporting delays were experienced in each country. Please itemize for each country used in your claim.
     
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    It looks to me like the yellow line begins a little before the blue line starts to go up. What do you see?
     
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    Plus who knows what time delays are related to each set of data.
     
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    Even funnier. Now you want to dismiss an antivaxxer's claim to support another, basically the data is "unreliable"? Is that what you are actually claiming now!? These are country specific deaths as reported. Vaccine rollouts were recorded by the antivaxxer and deaths are recorded as they occur on databases!
     
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    Back to personal attacks.
     
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    I see reality. I see a clearly rising spike that hits its peak BEFORE the vaccine rollout ends then begins dropping DURING the peak of the yellow line vaccine!
    [​IMG]
     
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    @AFM Would you kindly answer my post?

    Now you want to dismiss an antivaxxer's claim to support another, basically the data is "unreliable"? Is that what you are actually claiming now!? These are country specific deaths as reported. Vaccine rollouts were recorded by the antivaxxer and deaths are recorded as they occur on databases!

    Are you saying the antivaxxer data is unreliable?
     
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    How can you verify the timing and accuracy of that data? You can't. The nurse experienced everything that was happening in Northern California first hand.
     
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    My question is clear. How can the data from the Phillipines be verified in terms of accuracy and timing? You are using it to make a point but can not defend it.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ausing-injuries.621607/page-7#post-1075018231

    Just look at that ACM spike plummet as the US vaccine rollout occurs!

    @Scott Explain why you are not addressing this post? Clearly it shows no such rollout correlation and since THIS is salient to this train wreck of a thread it is the most important. The vaccine rollout is AFTER the spike and during January when it was ramped up, the ACM line goes down. Surely you can see this?
     
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    I had a relative that had a reaction to penicillin, it happens with all drugs

    due to the number of people that got the vaccine, it has been shown to be effective and safe, there will always be some that have a reaction to any vaccine as you are causing a immune response

    most handle a bee sting fine, to some it can be deadly due to an overreation by the immune system
     
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    You appear to be avoiding my simple question here!
    Errr no. She says she did, but the US data shows her to be making it up.
     
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    The exact opposite happened in Northern California.
     
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    Again personal attacks.
     
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