This nurse says she saw the covid vaccine causing injuries

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  1. MuchAdo

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    The initial rollout of vaccines coincided with high infection rates and ongoing waves of covid-19. The observed mortality rates were still being heavily influenced by the pandemic itself. Just because two events occur around the same time doesn’t mean one caused the other. Rigorous studies have repeatedly shown that the vaccines are safe and effective and there is no reliable evidence that links the vaccines to increased mortality.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2023/04/s...linked-to-vaccines-contrary-to-claims-online/
     
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    I beg to differ.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/excess-deaths-due-to-covid-and-the-vaccine.613477/
     
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    Move along folks, nothing to see here:

    https://openvaers.com/
     
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    And that “proves” what? VAERS is RAW data which means it contains EVERY report including “the vaccine caused more aliens to land” to “my bum fell off after I had an injection in my arm”
     
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    The VAERS system captures ~ 1% of the adverse reactions to vaccinations.
     
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    Oh no, the spam-by-numbers antivax claim. The ones previously not reported are the ones that cause the tiniest reactions, sore arms, tiredness etc. If anything the VAERS is over-reported from covid!.
    This was a report from before covid if I recall:
    Electronic Support for Public Health - Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS) | Digital Healthcare Research (ahrq.gov)
    Damn right! A deceptive antivax website distorting and lying.
    OpenVAERS - Wikipedia
    Uhuh, Inclusive dates: 12/01/07 - 09/30/10
    Irrelevant. You've been shown how the rollout spikes occurred after major mortality spikes as detailed. You can "beg to differ" all you like but it means nothing.
     
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    @Scott - may we have an answer to this? Your last denial post simply said "see above" but you still haven't answered it yet. Since this IS the one for the US and since it IS the one of most pertinence it would be dead peachy if we got an honest and objective response,

    Maybe not "let the viewers decide" huh? I want YOU to face up to cold, hard evidence showing that your clearly briefed nurse is lying! Unless as was ludicrously claimed there was a spike in Northern California with every single other chart showing nothing of the sort!
     
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    VAERS should never be used to try and prove vaccines are not safe. It is a tool that is meant to be used to monitor vaccine safety. It is basically an early warning system for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns.

    VAERS accepts reports from anybody, including healthcare providers, patients, and family members. The reports are not verified for accuracy or causality.

    VAERS has received some nutty reports related to side-effects of the covid vaccines. Individuals have reported that they gained superhuman abilities after receiving the vaccine. There have been reports that people have been turned into animals. One report claimed that a person turned into the Incredible Hulk after being vaccinated. There have been reports of death clearly unrelated to the vaccines — like dying in a car accident. People have claimed encounters with extraterrestrials after vaccination.

    Some adverse events related to vaccines may go unreported, while others might get reported multiple times. This makes it very difficult to get an accurate picture of vaccine safety.

    VAERS was not designed to establish causation Adverse events have to be investigated to determine causality.

    The data from VAERS is often misused by anti-vaccinations groups to make misleading claims about vaccine safety. These groups have been known to present raw numbers without context, leading to incorrect conclusions about the risks of vaccinations

    https://www.factcheck.org/2023/06/s...accination-groups-habitually-misuse-its-data/

    https://www.bmj.com/content/383/bmj.p2582/rr

    https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccine-adverse-events/vaers-overview
     
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    Please watch the video again.
     
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    And there have been repeated early warnings and the suppression of early warnings.
     
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    No matter how many times this information is relayed it is just not being taken in. The sheer availability to ANYONE to post a reaction leads to the inevitable unreliability of the process.
     
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    Please answer the post properly. You posted the lying "openvaers" report from 2010!
     
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    The system was established to report adverse reactions which indicate trends to be investigated. And there are trends which should be investigated.
     
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    That’s not a report.
     
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    I don't give a crap what you think it is. It's nothing to do with SARS2.

    It's labelled as Grant Final Report
    They have been investigated copiously!
     
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    Again you make statements about things you don’t read. How can you be taken seriously?
     
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    You really need to check your post!
    The irony.

    Here is the link you posted:
    Now, when you click the damn thing - It's labelled as Grant Final Report Inclusive dates: 12/01/07 - 09/30/10

    So..
    It IS a report - you are wrong.
    It is nothing to do with SARS2 - you are wrong.
     
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    Again it's obvious that you are not reading before commenting.

     
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    Unbelievable, just totally unbelievable!

    • It says at the top REPORT You are wrong, do you deny this!?
    • It says the time frame at the top of the REPORT Inclusive dates: 12/01/07 - 09/30/10 - that's 14 years ago! Do you deny this?
    • It is NOTHING to do with SARS2. Do you deny this?
    • VAERS has been around way before SARS2.
    • It is analyzing the process surrounding VAERS reporting!
    Pretend I can't read, YOU explain what you think the report is about with some key quotes
     
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    Do you understand what “electronic support “ means?
     
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    Yes. Did you understand all the mistakes you are making?

    I seriously wonder if YOU actually read the report. It is finding ways to improve the system. It's from 14 years ago, nothing to do with SARS2.

    See if we can get this done one at a time: Can you see at the top where it says "report"? You denied it was a report.
     
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    Sorry but this is just hilarious.
     
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    I still find that graph confusing.

    (from post #196)
    (from post #198)
    Please link to one.
     
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