This seems a pretty strong -and relevant- endorsement for Hegseth

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Army of 100 Navy SEALs Preparing to March on DC to Stop Lynching of Pete Hegseth - Report

    The most (or second most, depending who you ask) elite forces within our military don't seem to share the same concerns around Hegseth as our media and Trump-haters do. It seems like our SEALs prolly have as good a grasp on the needs of our military as anyone, and this is quite the rare public display for them.

    Assuming many Hegseth-haters remain unconvinced that our SEALs might know more about it than pundits and politicos, what do you think the SEALs are getting wrong here? Are they shills for MAGAmania? Are they being tricked by Putin-ganda? Or maybe this is a conspiracy for the SEALs to lead in at the head of a Spartan-esque military dictatorship?

    Tell me what you know that the SEALs don't.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that 100 SEALs know better than the woman he raped or his many colleagues that saw him drunk again and again...? What I know matters no more than what 100 seals know. What matters is what his colleagues and any woman he raped know.

    Or are you saying that if 100 Seals like you, it doesn't matter who he raped or how drunk he is?
     
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    Aren't navy seals a little bit psycho? Our special ops in Australia are definitely.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm talking about the folks who claim he is lacking in experience or has dangerous intent that will make him ineffective or destructive in the role he's being appointed to. Clearly the SEALs think he's the right guy for it. I'm not interested in the hearsay and conjecture, people shittalking about stuff that no one actually knows. Though it is true, that is part of the campaign to "lynch" (politically speaking) Hegseth that the SEALs apparently are intent on quashing. The court of public opinion requires ZERO facts to make a ruling ...so I'm not really interested in it.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's arguable. But regardless, who would you trust more to tell you the needs of your military- your somewhat psycho elite military forces, or the people who get paid to talk on TV?
     
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    He didn't rape anyone. The police at the scene determined that the woman was telling her husband (who was staying at the same hotel with the kids) a story.
     
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    Do you ever get tired of spewingng lies?

    Its been shown on this forum that Hegseth has never been charged with, let alone convicted of, rape.

    And the one accusation was fully investigated and no one involved found a basis to prosecute.

    You know this.

    Yet you insist on repeating the lie over and over.

    Sad. So sad.
     
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    The woman that claimed rape never pressed charges, so there's no credibility in her claim and not one co-worker will go on record saying he was drunk on the job, while several co-workers have gone on the record to say he wasn't.

    So yeah, these veterans do seem to know him better.
     
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    Whether he raped someone or not, even his mother told him he is abusive of women. Why do you guys LOVE woman abusers, serial adulterers and divorcees so much? Aren't you FOR family values? Or is the standard of family values only applied to the political opposition? Clearly, there would be many people more qualified and more ethical for this job than Hegseth. Why do you have to campaign for him so much?
     
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    Most of the time, the claims are untrue.

    You think there aren't any Democrats who don't fit that description? I bet you love Bill Clinton.
     
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    Oh that! Well.... even worse. A SEAL is great for carrying out battlefield operations. But they don't know how to manage a government department. Not even 100 of them!

    I have no idea what his intent is. I only know that he's an alcoholic, probably drug abuser, and abuses women. As for his intent all I know is that he SAID. And he SAID that women are not qualified to be in the battlefield. So he is also a homophobe. But the fact of whether or not he's qualified to be Secretary of Defense is secondary to the fact that he's not qualified to be a fully functional moral and ethical HUMAN BEING.

    "Thinking" about who should lead the DoD is not what SEALs are good at. They are good at battlefield operations. And this is proven by the kind of JERK their "nominee" has been proven to be. So, as I suspected, the topic of this thread is moot.
     
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    So? If you want to say something about the topic, say it! The above sentence is irrelevant and meaningless as it pertains to what I said.
     
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    Please explain the last person you voted for who was a moral purist.

    oh right, that would probably be Biden. LOL.


    If you can’t be consistent with your “principles” then your words espousing them are worthless and to be disregarded.
     
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    You mean like Democrats are peddling easily disproven lies because they don't want Trump's pick. Democrats lost the election. They don't get to pick the opposition's administration.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Charged"? So what? MOST rapists are never charged. What difference does that make to We The People? Or at least the part of We The People who don't want a rapists to be the head of the DoD (I'm sure YOU don't mind) Trump wasn't "charged" with sexual abuse either. And yet, a jury of his peers found that he DID commit it.

    Why not simply put somebody who is NOT a rapist, a drunk and... maybe somebody MORE qualified (or less unqualified)?

    Oh... I know why.... Because it would prove AGAIN that your deity if fallible. And that would be blasphemy, right?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Moral purist"? I don't even know what that MEANS.

    But I sense that binary thinking dictates that a President must either be some sort of "heavenly angel" or a convicted criminal who is a rapist, tortures children (by separating them from their parents with no intention of ever reuniting them), and who tries to overturn the government and become a dictator.

    And do save your binary thinking for somebody else. I already TOLD you I'm not interested!
     
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    If it's "easily disproven"... DISPROVE IT! And spare us from the rest of your nonsense.

    BTW, I don't give a CRAP what "Democrats are doing". I only take responsibility for what I say. This might not be easy to understand for you. But we democrats DON'T belong to a cult in which we are supposed to defend what OTHER democrats do. If we have reasons to throw anybody under the bus... we don't care if their name is Biden, Harris, Obama, or .... Jesus Christ.... Please keep in mind that WE, unlike what you might be used to seeing in your party, are NOT a cult.
     
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    wishy washy logic, wishy washy principles, wishy washy politics.

    Consider your opinion on Hegseths guilt to be disregarded
     
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    Actually, in a closely divided Senate (with a few GOPers on board) they DO!
     
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    It is for show much like when Trump or his allies claim, "every expert agrees......." comments. Seven GOP senators are on the fence. Sen. Ernst has said she has not endorsed Hegsbeth even though she has had several long discussions with him. Veteran groups are flooding the Senators not to confirm him, especially by those who are on the fence. Most are simply "following orders" from the President-Elect and don't care what his past or his stances are. And that's the problem. there needs to be a thorough FBI Background check on all the allegations, including his alcoholism, and the "no women in combat" stance he has. Either he will lie, or he will follow through on that statement. And Trump does not care either.
     
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    Try to keep up... She recanted her story... but you knew that already... and these liberal untruths will continue on from now on...
     
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    He is lacking in experience running a vast organization such as defense department. That can’t be disputed at all.
     
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    Opinions are not facts. You have a very bad habit of not knowing the difference.

    You thinking Hegseth is a rapist without proof is an opinion. You thinking I’m Maga is an opinion.

    its why having meaningful discussions with you is difficult, since you think every unfounded opinion you’ve ever had is factual, when all it is is political biases so profound the hypocrisy and irony completely escapes you
     
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    Careful, way up there on your high moral perch. It is a huge leap from thinking someone is fit for a job and LOVE them.
    But you know that.
    And you meanwhile defend your own man(woman) who carries the red letter of sexual abuser stamped on his forehead.
    Make sure your safety line is attached while you preach from your perch. It's a long way down, you're on a slippery slope, and the ground down here with us minions is rock hard.
     
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    You have the actual policie report of what happened. "No charges were filed because the claims were proven to be false."

    https://www.npr.org/2024/11/21/nx-s...the-sexual-assault-claim-against-pete-hegseth
     
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