This seems a pretty strong -and relevant- endorsement for Hegseth

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  1. HockeyDad

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    Give his opinion on trans soldiers and women in combat roles, everybody on the right loves this pick. This is why the left is fighting so hard. The left are intent on destroying America's military and rightly see Pete as their existential enemy in this fight.
     
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    Not all Republicans want Hegseth to lead the DoD. Many agree he is not even close to being qualified. although many Republicans feel they have to defend whichever pick Trump comes up with. Hegseth is a culture war warrior, and that seems to be his only appeal among the populist factions.

    Even his backers here don't seem to be able to say what they like about him, of then the fact that he promises to drive gays back in the closet.
     
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    Seems like Jane Doe made the same claims a few times before. Apparently that detail hasn't been that important to you, and liberal news outlets.
    https://nypost.com/2024/11/25/us-ne...aim-cites-tip-about-more-exonerating-details/
     
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    And we're back to the very simple truth.
    Trump won. Bigly.
    Trump gets to pick his cabinet and his administration, not the loser liberals.
    And their attempts at character assassination do not change that.
    Let them continue to twirl and pee at every turn.
    And ignore them.

    Their man(woman) lost, his legacy is in tatters, and the liberals are still moaning that they lost.

    As long as they're moaning about their loss, and peeing over trump's picks, they aren't digging up (pun intended) fraudulent votes, pandering to ILLEGAL MIGRANTS or driving up the cost of a Starbucks latte.
     
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    Not interested in any more nonsense. Just a retraction from your claim that would exonerate YOU from what is right now YOU falsifying a quote from a police report.
     
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    And to you of course, that means that if he wants to order black people to report to the nearest cotton field to be assigned for slave work, he now won some sort of "power" to do that, right?

    Wrong!!!! Winning the elections means that he has a few explicit powers, but he STILL to follow the Constitution. Which says that he requires the "Advice of Consent of Congress". And that DOES include some "loser liberals"
     
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    The geezer's fawning bum kissers would bleat and flail their pom-poms no matter what unqualified, lecherous drunk the sexual abuser fancied to run Defense.

    Fortunately, for the Nation, that is not how it works.

    The Fox entertainer will face serious questions from responsible senators, Republicans as well as Democrats.
     
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    And to you of course that means that trump plans to put the "darkies" back in the cotton field. Cause, you know, headquarters talking points.

    Trump winning means that within the limits of the constitution, he will lead America with his cabinet and his administration, noting the limitations that congress and the supreme court still hold. Says so, right there in the constitution.

    And that is why America is so great. The separation of powers, the endless adjusting of the powers of each branch of our government, and yes, even the snake pit of our political landscape are all part of what makes America the greatest country in the history of the world.

    And at the end of the day, Trump will have his cabinet and his administration and he'll do what he set out to do. "darkies in cotton fields" notwithstanding.

    That the liberals are beside themselves with panic that their man(woman) lost, and that they so happily swallowed all the propaganda from headquarters and it's now causing them serious heart burn, is all just a bonus.

    And endlessly entertaining, you gotta admit.

    *Shooter marvels at the liberal hyperventilating and hilarious claims of "darkies in cotton fields". "Can life" he asks "get any better than this?"
     
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    So you are mad because I called you out for citing evidence that the police said was demonstrably false? Why weren't charges filed? Was it "white privilege" or something far more sinister? MAGA UFOs clearly abducted her and beamed a married woman to a single man's hotel room. Maybe you could ask the police to re-launch their investigation?
     
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    I hope not. But YOU believe he COULD! That's why you keep repeating "he won!" every time anybody points out that Trump is OBLIGATED to follow the Constitution.

    "Talking points"? Uhhh... that hurts. I was under the impression that I had thought it up on my own. Oh well... looks like I'm not the only one who noticed that extreme MAGAs STILL don't understand how a democratic Republic works!

    Really??? Does that include the part about his cabinet being limited by "...the advice and consent of the Senate"?

    Look... it's GOOD that you changed your mind. Because the Senate INCLUDES many of what you would call "loser liberals".... and some of them are even in the Republican Party. You call them RINOs. And they most DEFINITELY get a say on who it is that Trump picks.
     
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    No! I'm mad because you claimed you could "easily prove" a false statement. And when we asked for this "proof", you made up a quote, claimed it was in a police report, and provided a link that says the OPPOSITE of what the quote claimed. After that, you tried to destroy the evidence by having it deleted.

    That is dishonest! But, more importantly, you made me waste my time looking up the REAL quote from the police report in YOUR link. If you don't retract, that would indicate that we can just discard ANYTHING you claim in the future about ANY topic without further research because you have a tendency to do this.

    At this point it doesn't matter if SHE lied. It matters that YOU lied! Retract!!!!
     
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    It sounds like the Republicans think they will have the votes to confirm him. If so, there isn't a damn thing any democrat can do about it. So they just need to shut up. If it turns out they don't have the votes, no problem, he can then find someone else. The accusations are obviously bunk. He's not a rapist or drunk.
     
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    They probably know what we all know. They do themselves, and the nation, a disservice by not caring.

    Pete Hegseth’s Secret History

    Hegseth’s record before becoming a full-time Fox News TV host, in 2017, raises additional questions about his suitability to run the world’s largest and most lethal military force. A trail of documents, corroborated by the accounts of former colleagues, indicates that Hegseth was forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran—Veterans for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America—in the face of serious allegations of financial mismanagement, sexual impropriety, and personal misconduct.

    A previously undisclosed whistle-blower report on Hegseth’s tenure as the president of Concerned Veterans for America, from 2013 until 2016, describes him as being repeatedly intoxicated while acting in his official capacity—to the point of needing to be carried out of the organization’s events. The detailed seven-page report—which was compiled by multiple former C.V.A. employees and sent to the organization’s senior management in February, 2015—states that, at one point, Hegseth had to be restrained while drunk from joining the dancers on the stage of a Louisiana strip club, where he had brought his team. The report also says that Hegseth, who was married at the time, and other members of his management team sexually pursued the organization’s female staffers, whom they divided into two groups—the “party girls” and the “not party girls.” In addition, the report asserts that, under Hegseth’s leadership, the organization became a hostile workplace that ignored serious accusations of impropriety, including an allegation made by a female employee that another employee on Hegseth’s staff had attempted to sexually assault her at the Louisiana strip club. In a separate letter of complaint, which was sent to the organization in late 2015, a different former employee described Hegseth being at a bar in the early-morning hours of May 29, 2015, while on an official tour through Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, drunkenly chanting “Kill All Muslims! Kill All Muslims!”

    In response to questions from this magazine, Tim Parlatore, a lawyer for Hegseth, replied with the following statement, which he said came from “an advisor” to Hegseth: “We’re not going to comment on outlandish claims laundered through The New Yorker by a petty and jealous disgruntled former associate of Mr. Hegseth’s. Get back to us when you try your first attempt at actual journalism.”

    Pete Hegseth’s Secret History
    A whistle-blower report and other documents suggest that Trump’s nominee to run the Pentagon was forced out of previous leadership positions for financial mismanagement, sexist behavior, and being repeatedly intoxicated on the job.
    [​IMG] www.newyorker.com
     
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    ohh. Ouch. The big mean golem insulted me! Golem said I believe stuff I don't believe and have never said! Golem said I'm stupid!! Him big bad man! I'm telling!!

    Oh. Wait.
    Trump won! Golem's man(woman) lost!
    Now we understand the lashing out, the insults, the endless attacks! Golem is having a moment! It's lasting a month, but it's still just a moment, eh?
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    You can't admit that you are throwing around disproven sexual assault claims like candy to villify Trump's defense secretary. Meanwhile look at the current defense secretary. Arming ISIS in Syria. You should be embarrassed.
     
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    And you "disprove" it by falsifying a "police report".

    Forget it! Now we know that you waste our time!
     
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    Tom Cotton expects ALL of Trump's nominations to be confirmed.
     
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    Over 120 Retired Generals and Admirals Endorse Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense

    “He has studied and experienced the disastrous effects Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) has on our military and he is committed to expunging it from our armed forces.”

    The lies and smears do not appear to be stopping him.

    Lying Fake News has been caught lying about Pete

    'the ProPublica attempted hit piece and West Point’s staff lying to said left-wing media outlet about whether Secdef-nominee Hegseth had lied about applying and getting accepted to West Point (spoiler: he was accepted at West Point and he did not lie about that): West Point Lied Twice About Pete Hegseth Applying to the Academy.'

    America is fed up with lying scum slandering folks.

    Some folks on the Left think that they can just lie, lie, lie some more and just get their way.
    'More than 120 retired U.S. generals and admirals signed onto a letter released on Monday expressing their “strong support” for President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, U.S. Army veteran Pete Hegseth. The letter comes after Hegseth endured several intense weeks of media coverage of allegations primarily made by anonymous sources.'

    Do you ever wonder if the Lying Fake News makes up the crap they attribute to unnamed sources?

    'He understands combat from the grass roots level and will take that much needed perspective with him as the next SECDEF. He has studied and experienced the disastrous effects Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) has on our military and he is committed to expunging it from our armed forces. His focus is solely on warfighting readiness so that our military is prepared to fulfill its mission—to fight and win our Nation’s wars.'

    'The retired generals and admirals said that Hegseth’s passion for the military was obvious, and his record in Iraq and Afghanistan showed that he was the “warrior” the U.S. needed to lead its military.'

    They also had high praise for his book "The War On Warriors"
     
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    Why should anyone give a rat's patootie about the opinion of 100 people that likely never met the guy? If you looked you would undoubtedly be able to find 100 seals that are Satanists, does that mean we should all accept Satanism?
    People who know him, like his mother for example, have given first hand accounts of his reasons for being rejected.
     
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    You quoted the ex-president's spokesman. Here's what the police said

    There's a huge difference. Not likely to win in court is a far cry from proven to be false.
     
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    SEALs opinion on religion probably isn't relevant. But their opinion on directing military policy very much is ...and that's what they're weighing in on.

    His mother's opinion of him is probably relevant to his character ...but why are you only considering her negative position from BEFORE she reconciled and recanted? If she's lying about it now, then I don't think her opinion can be trusted at all...

    You're not just cherry-picking opinions that match up with your own bias, are you?o_O
     
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    Again no, the police did no such thing. The prosecutor said not enough evidence to win in court. The guilty may avoid prosecution if there's not enough evidence, that does not make them innocent.
     
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    "Trump won. Bigly."
    Bigly is not the word to use when you have less than 50% of the vote.
     
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    According to NPR: This report corroborates what Hegseth's attorneys have said all along.
     
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