This seems a pretty strong -and relevant- endorsement for Hegseth

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is what the link YOU provided REALLY says about the report.

    The report concludes with a recommendation to forward the case to the Monterey County District Attorney's Office for review. It lists the potential criminal offense as "Rape: victim unconscious of the nature of the act" -- citing California penal code section 261(a) (4). Under state law, rape is classified as a felony punishable by three to eight years in prison.
    So NO! The police report did NOT say (I'm quoting YOU supposedly quoting the police report) "No charges were filed because the claims were proven to be false." like you claimed

    Clearly you want to get rid of all of this through "argument by reporting" (reporting to get as much of the false statements removed from the threads so others don't see what you did). But that just underlines the fact that you are aware of the ruse you tried to pull. No matter how hard you try, it will NOT be erased from your conscience or from our memory.

    You accused ME of lying about Hegseth. I don't report your accusation because I KNOW I can defend every word I say (read my sig!). The only way YOUR false claim goes away is by RETRACTING it. Just do that and be done with it!
     
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    So, we aren't going to consider the motivations of the people making the allegations, or whether the story is in fact accurate?

    In fact, can you point to a single employee or associate of Hegseth who will go on the record saying Hegseth is a drunk?
    Can you name a single source for the stories?
    No. You can't. They're all "sources familiar with the situation" or that rascal "anonymous".

    Frankly, I'm tired of letting such unfounded and libelous nonsense even get more than passing attention. We're talking about a mans reputation, his livelihood, and you're ambushing it in the name of politics.

    Shame on you.

    And worse, when it's a liberal being accused of something (Clinton, brandon, harris) you DEMAND SWORN AFFIDAVITS AND ORIGINAL RECORDS.

    Your hypocrisy dilutes to nothing your arguments that "just pick someone else".
    And it destroys your credibility.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know. They have not explained why they think Hegseth is qualified to run DoD.

    It's not a claim, it's a fact, - he does NOT have experience in running anything larger than a platoon of National Guards men.

    Ron DeSantis would be totally qualified to run an operation that size since he has been running the State of Florida for 6 years. There are plenty of qualified people for Trump to pick, so I don't get people's emotional support for Hegseth, but it seems it's 100% based on their desire to defend whoever their leader picks.
     
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  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On me? YOU were the one who voted for a convicted felon and proven sex abuser who separated children from their family with no plan to ever reunite them again. Remember?

    I have no idea what affidavits you're talking about. I don't think I have ever even WRITTEN the word "affidavit" in this forum.
     
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    Once again you are citing the woman's testimony which the police at the scene determined to be false. Most likely because she w
    NPR published the accusations which I see you gravitated to and accepted as gospel truth. When the police said that she was found to be lying and chose not to pursue any charges most of us moved on with our lives. Aren't we carrying this guilt by accusation a little far?
     
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    That's great, I guess the GOP now wants to use mom as character reference for cabinet picks. What really happened here: In private, she told him exactly what she thought about his philandering and direspecting of women. Now, in public, she is trying to save his bacon. That's what any good mom would do.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    False!!! I just QUOTED what the police said. And I quoted it directly from the link YOU provided.

    Ok... So you won't retract despite the fact that it has been SHOWN to you, with a quote (from your own source) that what you said was a lie. Clearly you are just here to waste our time. Now we know you will resort to dishonest tactics: lies... and then trying to get the posts calling you out deleted. I know of only one other poster who does that in this forum. And he/she is in my ignore list, so I don't know if they're still around.

    I gravitated to the link YOU provided. But let's give you one last opportunity.

    YOU claimed that the police report says (YOUR quote)

    "No charges were filed because the claims were proven to be false."

    The link you included for this quote does NOT contain that quote. Now you're even attacking your own source. So SHOW that the report says this from a quote by a credible source. OR Retract!
     
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    the right just can't claim to be the moral and family values party
     
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    The Navy SEALS are entitled to their opinions. And I am entitled to mine. I don't beleive this man is qualified to be Secretary of Defense. If he gets this job he will be the boss over more than just the Navy. He will have tremendous authority and power over thousands and thousands of enlisted people. He will control a multi trillion dollar budget. He will be responsible for making live and death decisions in war situations.
    He is not up to it. He doesn't have the intelligence or the experience for this job. Sorry.
     
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    While you ponder if you should retract or not (I hope you do. It would be uplifting to the spirit of the forum and increase the quality greatly), allow me to respond to this...
    You know what we ARE carrying too far? This nomination? Much as the hearings in Congress would be extremely entertaining, the fact is that the guy is dead wood. Clearly the guy abuses women (regardless of whether he abused this one or not) as per his mother's own words. And he is definitely a drunk, and very likely a drug adict.

    So why the insistence. If something like this escaped vetting in the Democratic Party, there would be 50 candidates lined up that would be equally or better qualified for the job. No problem! So why is it a problem in the MAGA party? Just get somebody else and be done with it!

    In the Democratic party, finding somebody to hold a high-level position is not a problem. They just need to be qualified. And there are many who are. In the Republican Party, being qualified is not how they are measured. They are measured according to their absolute blind loyalty to Trump. And that is MUCH harder to find. However, in the end, they WILL have to face Congress. And there might still be enough honest people there who might want an unqualified sexual abuser and certified DRUNK defending us from our enemies.

    Just get somebody else. There MUST be one who, even though not cult-level loyal to Trump, can at least do the job for a few months until Trump fires them.
     
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    How much did you complain when Biden's Secretary of Defense turned up MIA for 2 weeks?
     
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    I thought he should resign. But I think everybody in this forum thought the same so... there wasn't much discussion that I can recall. You can be sure I would not defend him in ANY way like you are defending this creep. Definitely not by denying obvious FACTS like you do. And in NO way would I make up false "police reports" like YOU did.
     
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    Apologies for tagging you as an impartial Obama-ton. However, I am still not ready to attack every military member who slept around. Everyone knows what happened in Vietnam. War brings out the worst in humanity. This makes me more excited to appoint someone who actually served, and not some general who sent thousands of his countrymen to die. Perhaps we can agree that there is a lot of money to be made in war, and we don't need another "war for profit" administration.
     
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    It wasn't the GOP that brought her into this why to you intimate otherwise? She dismissed it LONG AGO.
     
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    Ok.... but there is no need to apologize. I prefer retraction for the false quote from a police report.

    I don't care if he served. He's a drunk! And an abuser of women... Get somebody else!

    From the Secretary of Defense all I want is protection for our people in case they are attacked. Anything above that is great, but that one thing is what I doubt a drunk and an abuser of women can provide. "War for profit" came from a President. It wasn't his personal profit, but also bad. If it were for personal profit Trump would be more likely to engage.
     
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    Sure sure. Nobody cares what liberals want. We do care about what the military grunts want and they want Pete.

    Patton was by far America's best WWII general. He liked booze and he liked women. Imagine that. If America went to war with trannies and women, we would lose. You need hard masculine men to lead effective militaries, hard masculine men do not exist on the left.
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    Similar whiny bitch critics of Gen. Ulysses S. Grant complained to President Abraham Lincoln that General Grant drank excessively.

    Lincoln replied, "I wish some of you would tell me the brand of whiskey that Grant drinks. I would like to send a barrel of it to my other generals."

    If Trump tosses Hegseth, the baying hounds will simply move on to RFK and Tulsi.

    The GOP Senators who are whores for the Deep State are cowards and these Swamp Sluts will follow the path of least resistance on behalf of their Swamp Masters.

    They would love nothing more than for Trump to withdraw the nominations that the Deep State objects to. Force their hand. Make them take a recorded vote so that the voters know exactly which Senators lay with the Deep State, on their command.
     
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    The police and the women's husband debunked the "rape slander" but of course Golem want to carry it to new heights! American Patriots are becoming used to slander from the Marxist left.
     
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    The left wants an army of "trannies and pajama boys".
     
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    OK, you did not make up the woman's testimony in the police report. What you did was put it forth as FACT after it was investigated and proven to be false.
     
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    No I consider the wider actions of the figures. Does Hegseth have a history of drunkenesss and multiple partners? Why yes! There were even credible witness reports from the time of the rape that he was drunk. Does he have a past history of, to put it bluntly - “screwing around” well yes he does

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth

    Then there is his history of financial mismanagement……
     
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    It was never found to be false. I challenge you to go look for yourself.
     
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    Some do but I am betting more don’t. Well, those that haven’t bought into the “Everything Trump does is perfect” scenario. I am betting that if Hegseth were put forth by anyone other than Trump he would be being attacked by the right
     
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    Wrong! Are you ALSO going to use the false police report that the poster I responded to provided?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. YOU said it was "easily proven". And when challenged to prove it, you sent a false quote, falsely alleging that it was from the police report. With a link that said the OPPOSITE (which I quoted). Dishonest!!!!

    Will you retract or will you simply demonstrate that dishonesty is all we can expect from you?

    Last chance!
     
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