Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it

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  1. metypea1

    metypea1 Banned Donor

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    I am appalled at the parallels between the rise of Adolf Hitler and the kooky rise of Donald Trump. All over America we find countless millions of folks who see Trump as the promised Second Coming of Christ. They take deep comfort in the belief that this, the current scenario, speaks to reaffirming that USA is "God's chosen country" and that fair-skinned Americans are "God's chosen people" -- both of which concepts are utterly idiotic. If there is a God then I cannot for one second believe that He plays favorites.

    So I fear that the words of Senator Lindsey Graham are accurate. He has recently stated that any attempts made to disqualify or deter Trump from once again attaining the Presidency would result in widespread rioting in the streets.

    I decry the horror of these realizations. The world stinks! This dying septuagenarian says, "You can have it!".
     
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    I hear you. The MAGAts are unpredictable in their rage without even knowing why. The only comfort is in knowing this degree of stupidity is limited to a small percentage of the population. Maybe they should be allowed to secede from the nation. It would probably be less than a decade before running back to want to join civilization. Maybe it will mean something then.
     
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    Ever heard of Mein Kampf? Hitler wrote it in prison.

    Guess where you geniuses who are sweating bullets over the “parallels” curiously want to send him?
     
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    Ever heard of Godwin's Law?
    No you haven't.
    You need to study history so that you don't confuse beliefs. The idea that the U.S. is chosen started as early as the Pilgrims and has nothing to do with Trump.

    Many people opposing Biden do not have fair skin so your racist dog-whistle is false.
    Now you're fantasizing about something you believe is fantasy.
    Most rioting is done by Democrats. Always has been. Always will be. Fire the racist Democrat prosecutors and you'll have more peace in the streets.
    People who think the world stinks might want to smell themselves. They might be the cause.
     
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    For every "parallel" a liberal wants to make with Trump and Hitler, a conservative can make a similar "parallel" between Biden and Hitler.

    Cmon people. Enough demonizing. Enough propaganda. Debate the issues of the day please, or you will repeat history, one way or the other.
     
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    metypea1 Banned Donor

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    That's utter nonsense! Biden is a well-seasoned hard-working public servant. He is known for effective bi-partison accomplishments over forty-odd years. Clearly, he is not a populist. Trump had zero experience in public service and is, according to Bill Barr, "the consummate narcissist". Trump acts like the office of the presidency is tantamount to a kingship. Trump is plainly copying Hitler and those like Hitler. Biden is plainly just a workaday grunt.
     
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    Uh oh.
    Triggered a liberal.
    :applause:
    You're entitled to your opinion, but not your facts.
    A simple question; Are you better off today than when Biden took office?
     
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    You can draw parallels between Obama and Hitler, too.

    Hitler comparisons are stupid...lol
     
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    I award you my Yawner of the Week award. You can do much better than this if you give it a shot.
     
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    I bet you believe he drove a truck for a living, too...lol

    Ya know, Germans thought Hitler was a "workaday grunt".
     
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    Another comparison with Hitler? The historical and intellectual rigor of leftists seems to top off fairly quickly.
     
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    They don't even realize that they are using a strategy straight out of Hitler's playbook: create a domestic enemy.
     
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    Nothing curious about the desire to see a criminal traitor be held accountable. What's curious is not wanting to. That's where the greater danger lies.

    Lindsey made those comments 1 year ago. I wonder if he still holds to the same view now that a more complete picture of the evidence is in the public square. Like Meadows having no recollection of Trump ever ordering that classified docs be de-classified. https://abcnews.go.com/US/meadows-t...sident,declassifying broad sets of classified
     
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    I am less and less concerned about rioting in the streets. Trump has called for them, outright, with each of his indictments. Yet his following have failed to come through for him. I think we are seeing the quiet decline in his support.
     
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    If only Trump were a criminal traitor.
     
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    On his best day, Trump ain’t even close to Hitler, not by a long shot.

    Trump isn’t even good enough to be a stale, unseasoned yet overcooked off model version of a fictional dictator, and he looks like he should’ve put more effort into inciting a better gastric bypass instead of a riot.
     
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    I don't care for Trump, but I don't see him organizing groups like the SS to beat up his political opposition.

    If there are any violent groups in a American, you might look at ANTIFA, and the rioters who burned parts of cities during the summer of 2020. Unfortunately we will probably see those violent left wingers in action again if any Republican is elected president in 2024.
     
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    Thank you all for your thoughtful responses.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish he wasn't one too. It has caused great turmoil in the country.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think I'd use the word organize. Perhaps orchestrate is a better fit.

    Texas Woman Charged With Threatening Judge Chutkan

    A Texas woman allegedly called the chambers of U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan in DC on Aug. 5 and left a message using the N-word and threatening to kill the Black jurist overseeing the Jan. 6 prosecution of Donald Trump. The message also allegedly contained threats to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), who is also Black.

    In the message, left two days after Trump was arraigned in Chutkan’s courtroom, Abigail Jo Shry of Alvin, Texas, allegedly called the judge a “stupid slave n***er. If Trump doesn’t get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you, so tread lightly, b*tch,” Shry allegedly said. “You are in our sights, we want to kill you.”

    Shry has been charged with similar conduct in three other cases over the past year, according to the judge in the new case. Her father spoke at her detention hearing, painting quite a picture of his daughter:

    At the hearing, court papers said, Ms. Shry’s father, Mark Shry, testified that she was a “nonviolent alcoholic” who “sits on her couch daily watching the news while drinking too many beers.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/texas-woman-charged-with-threatening-judge-chutkan

    Remember this?



    And who can forget.........

    ‘MAGA Bomber’ Cesar Sayoc sentenced to 20 years in prison for trying to kill Trump critics, including Obama, Clinton, Biden, Booker, Harris
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/ces...years-for-sending-bombs-to-trump-critics.html

    Or this..........

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    Do these incidents represent an epidemic of violence? Epidemic is a strong word. But is it fair to say right wing media is radicalizing people though the vast majority don't act out violently? I think it is. How many thousands of misinformed folks, glued to their TV sets while hearing lies, are there for every Abigail Jo Shry?

    Orchestrate how you ask? By both giving tacit approval to acts and threats of violence and most importantly by not overtly condemning them.
     
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    As to the allegation that I am a liberal, sure, I can concur.
    As to the comparison with ANTIFA, they can hold lawful protests with my blessing and if any are found to have broken laws then I recommend that those be held accountable. Perhaps I am not as knowledgeable about Hitler as I could be. I know that some of my lineage lost their lives in the concentration camps. Yes I feel strongly that the rise of Trump is horrifying and portends super badly. The guy does much more harm than good, in my humble estimation.
     
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    You wish came true.
     
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    @metypea1

    This is the Hitler you speak of...

    He is a dictator who jails his opponents.... just like Hitler and China....

    Let the dicktater of the communist US speak for himself, comrades...
    Listen to the man words... he distinctly says... communist dictators say those sort of things
    "We have to demonstrate that [Trump] will not take power if he does run. Making sure he under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution, does not become the next president again."

    https://rumble.com/v34w72i-joe-bide...overnment-to-keep-trump-from-running-aga.html


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    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump portrays the hundreds of people arrested nationwide in protests against racial injustice as violent urban left-wing radicals. But an Associated Press review of thousands of pages of court documents tells a different story.

    Very few of those charged appear to be affiliated with highly organized extremist groups, and many are young suburban adults from the very neighborhoods Trump vows to protect from the violence in his reelection push to win support from the suburbs.
    https://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...al-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

    The amount of disinformation you folks have absorbed from conservative media is truly frightening.

    BLM and Floyd protests were largely peaceful, data confirms
    https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Polit...-protests-were-largely-peaceful-data-confirms

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    The overwhelming documentary and testimonial evidence says otherwise.
     

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