Those Wonderful Republican Tax Cut Plans

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    Everybody pays lower taxes if the voters elect a Republican.

    With that sentence, conservatives and neoconservatives stop listening, they know they want “that” Republican for their next President. Since all of the GOP hopefuls for 2016 have similar “plans”, they all have their supporters. Supporters that are certain their lives will greatly improve, so they ask no questions.

    Everybody pays lower taxes if the voters elect a Republican. With that sentence, right-wingers ears are closed to any statements that would burst their bubble of coming riches. So, they will NOT continue reading this OP, and if they do, their minds will be closed to its rationality. That famous right wing denial of truth and reason will kick in.

    Though they are thrilled by the thought of Republicans cutting taxes, conservatives and neoconservatives never ask the important question. This is allowing the GOP’s 2016 clowns to skip explaining how they will pay for their wonderful tax cuts.

    Looking at the facts, as usual, those who benefit most from the Republican tax cut plans are in the top 1%, and if history is any indicator, the poor and the middle class will lose far more than they gain when the GOP double talk is finished.

    Social Security and Medicare are certain to be major targets for the GOP’s tax cutting altruism. The millions of workers who paid into the system will see their retirement benefits cut so those in the top one percent can enjoy another new luxury car or two every year and more trips overseas in their private jets. For some strange reason, right-wingers are OK with giving their hard-earned SS benefits to the super-rich. They are also more than willing to forgo affordable medical care in their golden years so the super-rich are able to further increase their wealth.

    A fact that conservatives and neoconservatives like to ignore is, for many average working Americans, government safety net programs help pay their salaries indirectly. How is this so? Well, just as they do NOT ask what programs will be cut to pay for the wonderful Republican tax cuts, right-wingers don’t ask how these programs indirectly help working people either.

    Most of these government safety net dollars go to pay for housing, food, clothing, and other necessities. This money creates jobs, many, many jobs. Manufacturing jobs. Transportation jobs. Jobs in shipping and receiving. Sales jobs. Jobs in construction and repair. Jobs that will be lost if the Republicans get the tax cuts they want and initiate the spending cuts needed to pay for them. (Even if some of these entitlement dollars are gambled away by the poor and elderly at Indian Casinos, it helps create jobs.)

    Despite the right-wingers’ firm belief that they are indispensable to their employers, this job loss will not be limited to liberals, non-whites, non-Christians, low paid workers, etc. Many conservatives and neoconservatives are employed by companies that receive varying percentages of their profits from the billions of dollars spent by government on these safety net programs, so their jobs could be eliminated due to Republican spending cuts.

    Right-wingers must be made to realize the defense spending they absolutely love isn’t the only federal spending that greases the wheels of U.S. capitalism and the free market they adore. Highway and other infrastructure spending (which Republicans are loath to fund), certain enforcement agencies (help job creation to manufacture and install materials needed by companies to meet standards), NASA (the contributions by this agency to everyday life in the U.S. is immeasurable due to the technology developed for the space program that is later introduced for public use and job creation in the private sector), and the list goes on.

    The short-sighted conservatives and neoconservatives cannot understand that the federal government is one of U.S. business’ biggest customers.

    The Republicans want tax cuts for the super-rich and Big Business that allow these fat cats to opt out of paying for the many benefits this country provides them, but still maintain their profit-making presence and exploit the hundreds-of-millions of U.S. consumers, including the government.

    Those many government programs so hated by conservatives and neoconservatives keep many of them from becoming direct recipients of benefits from the safety net programs they hate, and becoming that part of society of lazy, stupid, welfare queens they despise.

    There are over 300 million people in this country, and regardless of what right-wingers claim, not all of them can be employed. Some are very young children, students, stay-at-home moms, the disabled, the elderly, the mentally challenged, and others that are victims of the fact that there are just not enough jobs to go around, given the limited education and skills of most older workers, lower and middle income Americans. Just as there are not enough qualified workers to fill positions in newer fields.

    But all of this is beyond the understanding of those whose lives are limited to the alternate reality of the conservatives and neoconservatives. People devoted to making a smaller corrupt government capable only of governing a tiny, third world country.

    And all that economic stimulus from past Republican tax cuts, well it hasn't materialized since Ronny Reagan hawked them over thirty years ago. Neither has the trickle down (http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/...ng-grid7|main5|dl18|sec3_lnk3&pLid=-836763492).

    http://www.vox.com/2015/11/5/9676176/marco-rubio-tax-plan-poor


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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is $60 to$90 billion in fraud in Medicare and a similar amount in Medicaid for a total of $120 to $180 billion a year wasted. Imagine putting that money into social security. If waste, fraud and abuse was cut government wide there would be plenty of money without raising taxes.

    By the way the BOTTOM tax rate was cut 33% from 15% to 10% under the Bush tax cuts. A person making $25,000 a year got to keep $1,250 more of their money. That would cover their car insurance, a nice new refrigerator or other necessary items.
     
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    For every dollar the government spends they get a return of like 95 cents. Its a losing proposition. The private sector either makes a profit or goes out of business. Let the private sector invest and pick the winners and losers not the government by using our tax dollars.

    Why do you libs think the government is better investing money ? Why do you always want to bite the hand that feeds you ?
     
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    Tax cuts.....tax cuts.......MAX BUTTS!!!

    Without control over spending on many overfed programs, the term tax cut is the same as saying "Hope and Change". We're just Hoping they'll leave us some Change!
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    This post gets an A+

    It's all a trap that so many Conservatives sink into like quicksand. The Seniors will suffer from their entitlement cuts at the expense of that 1%.
     
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    Government contracts and spending by the millions of recipients of entitlement programs keeps many of those "profitable" private sector businesses in the black. This fact completely escapes the conservatives and neoconservatives.

    For many CEOs it isn't their business acumen that keeps profits rolling in, they just know who to grease in government so their corporations receive the subsidies.

    This deep admiration right-wingers have for the hard-working corporate fat cats is overwhelmingly misplaced.

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    Any tax cut will benefit those who pay thise most taxes. And of course the left constantly overlooks the fact that most of these tax plans come with a removal most all if not all tax deductions which means two things both hated by democrats, number 1, they'd no longer beable to try to micromanage everyone's life through the tax code, and number two they'd no longer be able to write generous tax breaks into the tax code for their bundlers.
     
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    Notice how the mention of tax cuts gets democrats underlovlies in a wad. It is easily achieved by cutting spending. Dump two or three executive branch cabinets, and freeze fed gov hiring and wages for at least 5 years. Everyone knows that fed workers get far more pay for doing the same thing that private workers get for the same jobs.
     
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    Giving them a job is a much better solution. All tax cuts do is let the private sector keep more of its money. The private sector is much better with money than the government. All those programs you libs like are unconstitutional. Its simply a way to buy votes. I dont not oppose welfare but I do oppose it at the federal level. It is a matter for state and local governments
     

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