Three rapes happen every hour in US military

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  1. AliJ

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    A new report by the US Defense Department, Pentagon, says almost three rapes occur every hour in the US military, raising serious concern about the soaring rate of sexual assault among US servicemen.

    According to the Pentagon, sexual assaults in the military have increased to the alarming level of 70 per day or three every hour, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

    The report added that 26,000 service members were sexually assaulted in 2012, a 35-percent increase since 2010 when 19,000 such cases were reported.

    However, the overall rate of sexual assault in the US military may be higher, as many victims fail to report out of fear of vengeance or lack of justice under the military’s system of prosecution, the report added.

    “The more closed and hierarchical an institution is, the more the victim is stigmatized and the rapist gets away with it,” said Susan Brooks, pastor and volunteer rape crisis counselor.

    Brooks went on to condemn the US military for maintaining a culture of gender and power relations, which she says produces the rape culture among service members.

    Many high-ranking US military commanders have recently been convicted and relieved of duties for multiple sexual offenses and corruption over the years.

    On May 6, authorities said Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Krusinski, director of the sexual assault prevention program for the US Air Force, has himself been detained for sexually assaulting a woman not far from the military headquarters in Arlington, Virginia.

    In 2012, over 30 male Air Force boot camp trainers were cited for sexually harassing, abusing and raping at least 59 military recruits at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/09/302658/3-rapes-occur-every-hour-in-us-military/

    and this is not like the invasions where they say "What happens in, stays in.." It is even in their own army.. So sad..
     
  2. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    part of the problem is that traditionally military's everywhere get many of their recruits from the lowest strata of society...these are often violence prone individuals...

    getting rid of the military justice system and making all crimes a civilian judicial matter would remove the sense of immunity from prosecution the criminals now enjoy...
     
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    What a terrible article. There's a massive difference between "sexual assaut" and "rape." Sure it's a problem, but too many whacked out left wing media centers sensationalize and exaggerate the numbers. Magically turning "sexual assault" into "rape" is a perfect example of blatant bias. The Pentagon reported 70 sexual assaults a day....nothing about rapes per day. It also ignores the fact that in the last few years there's been much more emphasis on reporting sexual assault. For all we know sexual assault is down but reported cases are up due to a better reporting enviornment. Of course the liberal media won't acknowledge this common sense fact in their continuous mission to discredit the military.
     
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    Press.TV, really?

    This is the same outfit that reported that the grandson of Malcolm X was arrested by the FBI going to Iran, was it not?

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/04/287235/fbi-stops-malcolm-x-grandson-trip-to-iran/

    Sorry, PressTV is not even close to "journalism". It is a pure propaganda rag, pure and simple.

    Although even that is not true, because at least a "rag" would be good for wiping your bum with.
     
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    Hagel orders changes to confront military sexual abuse
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/military-sexual-assaults/2140835/

     
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    Krusinski acquitted...
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    Air Force lieutenant colonel acquitted of groping woman in parking lot
    November 13th, 2013 - The former head of an Air Force sexual assault prevention program was acquitted Wednesday of an assault charge stemming from an incident in Arlington, Virginia, last spring, his lawyer confirmed to CNN.
     
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    The breakdown in discipline begins at the top. The Commander-in-Chief's malfeasance has broken morale.
     
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    Tax, as much as I dislike POTUS discipline is more organic in nature. The person who committed this action was prone weather being Military or Civilian. I have yet to be in any unit that promotes a climate of rape.

     
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    And what is wrong with this entire article?

    Well, it is entirely biased, designed to give the impression that he was on trial for a sexual assault under military law, and like they want you to believe are never prosecuted.

    But in reality, there are several things that to me blow away both the headline and the crappy reporting.

    1. He was not "acquitted of groping woman", he was acquitted of assault and battery. The sexual assault charges had been dropped months ago.

    2. They should have been clear that this was a civilian trial in the Arlington County Courthouse.

    3. This charge is what the Prosecution moved forward with, a misdemeanor. How often does such a minor offense make the national newspapers?

    The reason I now rarely consider CNN a legitimate "News Source" is that their is so much editorializing in their stories that they give you the impression they want you to have, not necessarily what really happened.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...8f6b5a-4b16-11e3-ac54-aa84301ced81_story.html
     
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    Did I get it wrong or sexual assault is not equal to rape?

    Edit:
    Oh , I see, get it right.
     
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    Don't take the word of press TV.. Find some more reliable sources.
     
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    I don't know what military you are talking about but it is not true of the US military. I know what you are saying is the common liberal mantra so you can feel better about yourselves as you look down on the people that serve.
     
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    I think that most of those who identify themselves as "Liberals" are rather like Pauline Kael when it comes to the military.

    They have heard of them, and they must exist, they personally do not know any, but they can feel their presence sometimes.

    For those that do not remember Ms. Kael, she is often quoted as saying she did not understand how President Nixon could win in a landslide in 1972, since she does not know anybody who voted for him. In reality, she did not say that but something ver close to it:

     
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    The source on this is Press TV.. Iranian.
     
  15. Mushroom

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    That is true. However, they also make the exact same mistake that 90% of US "news sources" make as well. And that is equating "sexual assault" with rape.

    Now granted, I am all for prosecuting these arsewholes to the full extent of the law. But simply groping somebodies bottom is not the same as rape. Yet for some reason everybody in the media seems to take the assault rates and report them as rapes.

    I have long seen this as nothing short of an attack on the military as a whole, distorting news by purposeful omission.
     
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    Trust me.. the attacks from the Iranian press are getting very nasty..
     
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    only 7-11% of US recruits have any college experience...in other words about 90% come from the undereducated, unsophisticated and unemployed/underemployed ranks, typically also the most violent prone parts of society...it's true of every military, stupid violent people who are easily swayed by shallow patriotic jingoism...
     
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    So in your mind, unless you have college you are "undereducated and unsophisticated? Wow, no hint of prejudice there, is there?

    Actually, you might be surprised.

    To begin with, think about this:

    http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local...conomy-more-college-grads-enlisting-military/

    And quite a few finish or start college degree programs in the military. In fact, quite a few join partially with such in mind. Here are some stats for the Air Force:

    http://www.afpc.af.mil/library/airforcepersonneldemographics.asp

    Notice, I am using actual statistics and references, not just pulling random claims out of my ass like you are. So can you provide actual facts to back up your silly claim? Because the actual facts say not only are you wrong, you are so completely wrong it is not even funny.
     
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    I wonder what the criterea is for, "rape" in this story because according to feminists having sex after a couple drinks is, "rape" among other seemingly inocous things and feminists are funded by the government so.....????
     
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    It is because they are unable to tell the difference between a "rape" and a "sexual assault".
     
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    You may have a point there. The DoD standard for consent says that a person is considered to be unable to give consent after one drink in a given night - even just one beer. If you pick up a girl in a bar and have sex, it can be considered non-consensual, and therefore rape by this definition.

    I wonder how prevalent rape would be among the peers of our military members (basically college students) if this standard was used universally.
     
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    What the link doesn't tell you is the fact that the majority of sexual assault victims in the military are men.
     
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    ...and ironically a man buying a drink for a women he would like to know has traditionally been considered a polite gesture. I guess these days it would be considered attempted rape.
     
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    Virtually everyone of them is simply consensual sex. Those "victims" have sex with male soldiers, get jealous or mad at them, and then report them as rapists. Due to political correctness and affirmative action, such incidents scare the hell out of commanders who are quick to find the hapless male soldier guilty as charged.

    Women are a burden and trouble-making cumbersome drag on the military, and have no place there.

    The military has become a mecca for females, lesbians, gays and other "minorities" looking for a free affirmative-action ride and sex at the expense of male soldiers.

    Military commanders are terrified of these bullies and let them have their way.
     
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    Actually, that is very rare. I only am aware of one incident like that happening in my 16 years in the military, and it was tossed out of trial (both people however were convicted of making false statements).

    For one, the majority are not even rapes, but "sexual assaults". This can be as little as touching somebody else on the bottom, all the way up to attempted rape. The military does not keep separate statistics however, so it is impossible to tell how far it went.

    However, most of the rapes I was involved in (I was a Sexual Assault Counselor in one unit) did not involve military perps, but civilians. Generally it was a servicemember who was out in town and was assaulted and raped by a civilian, not by another servicemember. But we do not track reports that way at all, only by who the individual reporting the crime was.

    And I do not want to even get into how Restricted and Unrestricted reports skew the data also. But Restricted means that the chain of command is told somebody was sexually assaulted, and nothing else. Not the person, or the perp, where, how, nothing. And the majority of reports are Restricted (think of it as Restricted calling a Rape Hotline, and Unrestricted as calling Law Enforcement).

    One of the few that was unrestricted involved a guy who was given a drug cocktail at a bar, and woke up in the desert being raped by another man. He fought off the guy and wandered out into the desert until he could find a phone and call for help. We got him treatment, counseling, and help because the concoction slipped into his drink included cocaine, barbiturates, and flunitrazepam ("Ruffies").

    Most sexual assaults are never charged simply because command is never told who was involved (or anything more then an attack happened). And most of the rest little happens because there is simply not enough to prosecute ("Specialist X was drink at a party, and groped PFC Y's bottom. She pushed him away and he tried again before she pushed him to the ground and left.")

    Yes, that is an example of one Unrestricted Sexual Assault I worked with. And no, no action was taken because what could the command do? They could start Article 15 proceedings, and he could request a Court Martial. Was there enough evidence and clear facts to justify a Court Martial conviction? No, no more then an Attorney General would take such an incident to a trial.

    And with your tirade against females, gays and minorities, I think I can safely flush this and anything else you have said from mind, it is nothing but discrimination and nonsense, with little fact. I have spent over 16 years in uniform so far, under every President since Reagan. How much time have you spent in uniform to be able to make those charges?
     
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