Three states move to protect children from transgender bathroom and locker room rules

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I have whatever suites my clientele because they would be the ones that pay for it.

    If it is a single sex gym, those exist, I'd have one. If my clients preferred I'd have dental individual ones. If it catered to both children and adults I may have three or even four. If I had a lot of trans clients, I might have a specific locker room for that.

    I would know my clientele better than the government thus I wouldn't need them dictating how I should serve them.

    That's a two way street.
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I provide what suits my clientele.
    Why? That seems a bit of a silly question, but okay. Because I want my clientele to be happy with the services I provide because a happy customer is a returning customer. And a returning customer is guaranteed money.

    I don't see what laws involving themselves in that will do.
     
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    Pre or post op ?
     
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    And the stalls are what kill your argument. They're identical. I could blind fold anyone and put them into a stall and they'd have a 50% chance of telling if they were in the men's room or the woman's room. Both m/w and w/m will be using the stall, assuming you'll agree on that. So how do's a trans person feel more gender appropriate when the stall he'll be using in the woman's room is indentical to the stall he would've been using in the men's room?
     
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    Yes I notice that inane argument too, since we can't stop ever single rape then we should not have laws against rape since it will happen anyway.

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    And since murder happens everyday the law isn't stopping it.......
     
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    And if it's not being pushed by those people, you can bet your ass it will still be exploited by them. Which is my whole problem with it. There is nothing to keep people from exploiting this.
     
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    No YOU pay for it and YOU own YOU make the decisions.

    Why the dodging and dancing?

    It's a normal gym with men and women and children, will you have sex specific or one big one that everyone uses and please explain why?
     
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    Dancing noted again, YOU are building it YOU have to decide sex specific or one big one that everyone male and female young and old use and why. And you don't seem too concerned about the happiness of the woman in the OP so care to reconcile your statements now?
     
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    I don't see how that harms my argument in the slightest.

    And the whole issue is especially mute when we're talking about elementary students. They're too young to get so worked up about it all. But, to be honest, I'm not sure what ages we're talking about anymore. Seems everyone is hyping out about this issue without respect to age.
     
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    Correct, laws don't stop anything. They are just arbitrary words in space.

    Enforcement stops it. Enforcement also isn't perfect.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    Okay my clientele pay me. Thus I want them happy.

    I'd make the decision based on their needs. That is how business works.

    What am I dodging?



    I'd probably have several, yes I would have two for the sexes, but if likely have a third one. It would be unisex for families with small children.

    The reason is because I'd assume the clientele would prefer that.
     
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    What dancing?

    It would depend on my business. I would say most small businesses only have one bathroom.

    What woman in the op? It was talking about states.
     
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    the thrust of this argument is that kids are trapped in schools. They are, more or less, prisoners. You are advocating one general bathroom for all children. I suspect a pedophile would strongly approve......
     
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    I'm sorry, I don't recall advocating one general bathroom.

    As far as I'm aware I advocated property owners setting up their own policy.

    Huh, that's strange that I could advocate something without ever stating it. Stranger still that I advocated something that I clearly don't.

    I think you need a refund on that crystal ball.
     
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    But you haven't answered the question. Why would a male in transition feel it's more comfortable using the ladies room when the stalls are identical? How do you feel more lady like using identical equipment as the men? Is the TP scented?
     
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    You'd have to ask the one making the transition. I could only speculate.
     

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