"Thug" -The New N-word

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. A higher percentage of Blacks commit crimes than Whites. Make sense to me that a higher percentage of Blacks would be in prison.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe so, but you folks use the N word all the time. I heard it at the gas station a few weeks ago, and on the streets in Long Beach, CA last week.
     
  3. superbadbrutha

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    A higher number of whites commit crimes it would make more sense that a higher number would be incarcerated, but we both know why they are not.

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    Who is you folks?

    So since some black folks use it that should make it ok for you to do the same.
     
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    *sigh* This conversation is regressing...

    I used to dwell frequently within a group that was well mixed with white and black people, mostly male and mostly acquainted with each other through music appreciation and collaboration. I observed many of my light skinned peers use the "n" word ending in "a" as it became part of the common vernacular. Now, the use of this word in this context was not meant in a derogatory way and was used by both white and black people referring to both white and black people in a direct manner. It was race neutral in that sense. To use the "n" word, regardless of the letter at the end, to identify race is inappropriate and inherently insulting to the race that it is being thrown at.

    Does that help clarify how context and intent come into play, here?
     
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    Sorry, but I don't know any white guy that I am comfortable with calling me the Nword ending in a or r.
     
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    And that's cool. Any white guy that would say that in that context would and should know better than to just assume any black guy is cool with it because he's black. I personally never got into using it because, to me, it has an inherently racial overtone to it, but there was nothing racial about it in the context that these guys used it in their conversation. So, there it is.
     
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    Thats cool, I can't speak for any other black man.
     
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    You are so transparent....haven't changed one iota. He just had a moment of victory, and was probably reacting to previous bad press given him. He's no thug because he went on a 25 sec rant, and what is a typical negro? Geez, nobody even uses that word anymore....nobody in the 21st Century that is....if a white guy had done the same thing you and the rest of the racist right would be making all kinds of excuses for him.
     
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    That's a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie....



    You heard it at a gas station and on the streets of Long Beach, Ca last week and that makes it "all the time" - what a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing exaggeretor.
     
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    Couldn't resist...

    On the streets of Long Beach...

    [video=youtube;e1dPKfxRhk0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dPKfxRhk0[/video]
     
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    And you have a link to prove that millions and millions who voted for him now think of him as crud? I believe the racists never voted for Obama, how could they, they hate blacks and certainly didn't/don't like a black President, so quit making allegations that you can't back up.
     
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    he heard it at the gas station, it must be true.
     
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    This should make you happy: http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

    Blacks

    No, it does not make it OK, but you folks should lead by example.
     
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    I have heard it many times.
     
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    So, black folks never call each other the n word?
     
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    Why is the n-word so popular with many young black kids today?

    If you could keep the word within the context of the intimate environment [among friends], then I can see that you could potentially own the word and control it. But you can’t because the word takes on a life of its own if it’s not in that environment. People like to talk about it in terms of public and private uses. Jesse Jackson was one of those who called for a moratorium on using the word, but then was caught using the word with a live mic during a “private” whispered conversation.

    There’s no way to know all of its nuances because it’s such a complicated word, a word with a particular racialized American history. But one way of getting at it is to have some critical and historical discussions about it and not pretend that it doesn’t exist. We also cannot pretend that there is not a double standard—that blacks can say it without much social consequence but whites cannot. There’s a double standard about a lot of stuff. There are certain things that I would never say. In my relationship with my wife, who is not African American, I would never imagine her using that word, no matter how angry she was with me. …

    That’s what I’m asking people to do—to self-reflect critically on how we all use language and the extent to which language is a reflection of our innermost thoughts. Most people don’t bother to go to that level of self-reflection and self-critique. Ultimately, that’s what the class is about. It’s about selfeducation and self-critique, not trying to control others by telling them what to say or how to think, but rather trying to figure out how we think and how the words we use mirror our thinking. The class sessions often become confessionals because white students often admit details about their intimate social circles I would never be privy to otherwise.

    Source: http://www.tolerance.org/magazine/number-40-fall-2011/feature/straight-talk-about-n-word
     
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    Same thing I said before, you try to make it seem like black folks are committing more crimes. So if 100 murders have been committed and black folks account for 30 or them and whites account for 70 of them, you committed more.


    Say that and quit saying, "you people or folks".

    I didn't say it does make it ok, but because of the history of the word and how it has been used by whites shouldn't make it hard to understand why a black person wouldn't get pissed with another black person saying and why a black person would get pissed with a white person saying.
     
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    Using shear numbers, yes, white's commit more crimes. However, when you look at incarceration rates, here is what you get: http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/raceinc.html

    Lead by example is all that I am saying. Using the N-Word in public by anyone just makes it seem more acceptable.
     
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    I agree, he wants respect then whines like a little girl when get criticism.
     
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    What?? Silly you, black people can't be racist, only white people can...did you fall asleep in Black Liberation Theology or something?
     
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    A prime example that the system is racist.


    Well if that is how you feel, when you address someone black call them the Nword.
     
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    When that criticism is being called a "thug" when nothing clearly proves that, the whining is then justified.
     
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    Playing the race card by Sherman was not justified, even if he was unfairly labeled a thug. His outburst was over the top and out of context and without a transcript, it sounds like he was going bat (*)(*)(*)(*) insane. He was ranting about being disrespected because the QB threw the ball his way. He's a punk.
     
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    whining is never justified unless you are 10 and wear panties
     
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    Or if your name is Justin Bieber.
     

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