Time for a Marco Rubio thread

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  1. OklahomaDemocrat

    OklahomaDemocrat New Member

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    I believe the Junior Senator from Florida is set to announce his candidacy tomorrow (Monday, April 13). What are your thoughts?
     
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    Two young, too naive and prone to manipulation from press and democrats. Just my opinion. I think we need someone tested under fire like Cruz
     
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    In some kind of clumsy attempt to snipe at Hillary, Rubio revealed an embarrassing weakness that he has about the 20th Century... that he evidently is too young to know the last time that America was a prosperous, dynamic, successful nation with a population of workers and taxpayers who actually WERE increasing their personal wealth and achieving their goals.

    Sure, in the mid-1990's when the U. S. economy was busting at the seams, Marco Rubio was only in his early 20's, but what does he think was so bad about American prosperity in the 20th Century -- especially all of those decades after World War II?

    I can sympathize with his desire to take some of the wind out of Hillary's sails with attempts to make her ideas and philosophy seem "old". She's a myopic, socialist, ex-hippie chick whose only "claim to fame" was being the only female to get in bed with Bill Clinton who ended up with a ring! But for Rubio to say that she's in the wrong because she's old school is, uh, bull(*)(*)(*)(*). This country has never done better in its history than it did in the 20th Century, and we aren't likely to do that well again for a very long time to come, if EVER....

    [​IMG] "Is their political Right really as stupid as their political Left...?!"
     
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    When all the dust settles down the road, I believe the nominee will be a Governor. Bush seems to be the likely choice, but I really believe it will be Walker or Huckabee.
     
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    I feel your analysis is correct, I'd like to throw in Rick Perry. Also whoever the Republican Nominee is, this time I feel his VP pick will be crucial, especially if the RNC so called establishment manages to get Bush nominated. Florida/Wisconsin are both purple State (could go either way) and they would likely try to get a Bush/Walker ticket. My favorite would be Perry/Rubio (while dust in the air), but Texas will go Republican in any event, a minus for the big donors.
     
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    Well, don't count Rand Paul out. I'm still hopeful for the guy. He's loved by Republicans (won Republican of the Year at CPAC), has name recognition (from his father, which might also play against him, come to think of it), and can probably win over moderates (he's a libertarian. Moderates haven't seen a libertarian Republican in a while).

    My personal favorite would be a Walker/Paul or Paul/Walker ticket.
     
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    Good man. I voted for him for Senator--both for the nomination and in the general election. At least in my area, NW Florida, Rubio didn't have a single negative ad that I saw. His opponents (Independent Charlie Crist and Democrat Kendrick Meek) did have negative ads both against each other and Rubio. Rubio is the only candidate running that can talk about the American dream. The son of a bartender and a housekeeper......

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    Cruz is too polarizing.

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    He's right though. The past is gone. It cannot be replicated--we cannot get back the conditions of the 20th century. We need to be thinking about the future.
     
  8. Day of the Candor

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    What is so different today from the 80's and 90's? You get a good education, you work hard, you show you are productive and dependable and you succeed. That's how it was then. How is it different now?

    I know that the government has pushed itself into peoples lives a lot more now than they ever did back then, and that is the biggest difference that I can see. That and a hell of a lot more people getting welfare of all kinds and subsidies from the government.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Both Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, loyal Libertarians, have run in Republican Primaries, lost and then run as a Libertarian in the General Elections. In fact Johnson has already announced he will run in 2016, not as a Republican.

    Rand Paul deserves consideration and as his own self, but IMO he still has his Dad's baggage to carry and won't be selected as a VP or win the primary process. For the record I would support him or any other candidate, over Hillary, but feel that's an exception.
     
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    In my opinion both Cruz, Rubio, and Rand are what I would describe as human wave attack. Something similar to what the Chinese did during the Korean war. They would send waves of soldiers in frontal attacks checking for enemy weak points, and seeing the trajectory of artillery. Obviously these attacks were designed to mostly fail, and then the armor with heavy artillery would move in and attack those weak spots. the real candidates will be Jeb, Scott Walker, and perhaps Christie.
     
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    I don't think Paul will be on a ticket. Now, Walker/Rubio would be more likely, and it would insure Florida. I would not count Huckabee out, he will come on stronger than many realize.
     
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    Well, not necessarily ensure Florida. That's what they though last year about Paul Ryan, and he didn't carry Wisconsin.

    I doubt it. General opinion is moving away from the extreme right.
     
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    Huckabee is not extreme right, he's just right, in more ways than one. He appeals to a broader base than you realize.

    As a Senator, Rubio has already established state wide appeal, unlike Ryan.
     
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    I don't know why republicans are fawning over RUbio. Harry Reid dissed him by calling him a loser and his response was pathetic. Didn't even attack him back. He is not ready for primetime. But I agree with your opinion.

    Cruz is principled and wiling to stand up to democrats but he is crazy on immigration. He is worse then the democrats on the issue which means I will be voting for Scott Walker.
     
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    I doubt Huckabee can win the general election. He is too much like George W. Bush.
     

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