To all those concerned that Trump might beat Biden I say: Relax!

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is directed more to the anti-Trump folk who are worried that Biden might not win.

    Today we're learning that the MAGA "star witness" against Joe Biden is being prosecuted, by the prosecutor that was appointed by Trump (to dispel "Deep State Conspiracy Theory" arguments), for LYING.

    So it all is falling into place. Every single issue that MAGAs wanted to run against Biden is being dismantled. Not necessarily by Democrats. But often, like in this case, by Trump appointees.

    -"Border crisis": This issue has been exposed to be a stratagem by Republican to block a solution. Just a matter of messaging.
    -"Biden is too old" This argument is undermined by Trump every single time he speaks in public and demonstrates that he can't concentrate.
    -"Biden stole documents too" The case has already been discarded by a prosecutor who was originally a Trump appointee.
    -"But... but... but... Hunter... Burisma" The Republican star witness, the "whistleblower who, according to Republicans in the Committee to Weaponize government, the DoJ "trusts" is being indicted by Trump's special prosecutor.
    -"Putin ain't so bad" Today this argument got a hit after Putin murdered his main opponent. - "The Economy" Indicators are holding strong. The economy is on a definite path to recovery, and inflation should follow suit pretty soon.

    On the other hand

    -Except in the Miami case, it would appear like Trump delay tactics are approaching their shelf-life. So it looks more and more imminent that Trump will be running as a convicted felon.
    -I don't know if you're following the fight for the RNC Chair. Trump removed Ronna McDaniel, because she's not getting him enough money. Trump wants the wife of Trump's dumbest spawn, Eric, to be the co-chair. And she has demanded that every single campaign dollar must go to Trump. Of course, this means most of the money will more likely go to his defense fund rather than to campaign against Biden. Candidates to Congress will not be very happy about that. At this point, Democrats have way more money than Republicans. And that does make a difference. Especially in the last month before the elections. THAT'S when people start paying attention. So don't worry about the polls now. It's way too early.


    So what is Trump going to run on? What would allow Trump to win more states than he did in 2020?

    I really really can't think of anything. I see more likely that Biden could win Texas, Ohio, Florida, ... than Trump making any gains in ANY state that he lost. I'm not predicting that that's going to happen (not at this point), but it's more likely than Trump beating Biden in any state he lost in 2020.

    Biden has many negatives. But he also has plenty to run on: Abortion, the economy, Climate Change, minority rights, ... But many many people are not going to vote FOR Biden... they're going to vote AGAINST Trump.

    So I just say relax! Biden is our candidate. He'll do just fine...
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its good to see Dems admit that they are voting against Reps, not for Dems.
     
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    You will need a surf board to survive this red wave

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    Very funny isn't in it? In the SAME thread he says "what is trump gonna run on" he doesn't name ONE thing that Biden is running on. Just anti-trump stuff and "biden didn't do this, biden didn't do that"
    How about what IS he gonna do?
     
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    We already know what Biden is going to do screw every thing up.
    Mean while the georgia case is head down the crap hole as even MSNBC admits. Braggs case should be over with as soon as the defense moves for a summary dismissal because there is no there there. Jack's case is foundering before our eyes, And father time continues to gain on Joe's brain and body at a frightening pace. Joe's handlers might want to keep the magic button out of falling distance.
     
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  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you liked that, you might want to follow my posts more closely. I always say things like they are!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    READ (from the OP)
    I would expect a poster would explicitly correct their statement.
     
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    The edit timer ran out or I'd correct it. I did not catch that sentence. Sorry!
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That has not been my experience. Trump has a similar set of benefits gifted to him by your party. Poverty. feces, inflation, excessive taxes, illegal immigration, etc.
     
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    I have already said, loud and clear, over two weeks ago in a different thread, that no matter WHO or WHAT Democrats actually decide to run for the presidency in their August convention, they will (WILL) win! It's rare, but I see that you agree with me -- even though you didn't mention the one overriding, overpowering reason that Biden (or anyone else Democrats choose to run) will most certainly win: FREE STUFF!

    As an unaffiliated-Independent (man without a party), I have come to despise both the Democrat AND Republican Parties. I want a president that can no longer even exist in the United States -- a mythical synthesis of John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. Instead, we're going to get another Democrat regime that will go on running this country into the ditch even deeper than we are already.

    Hint: With 'free-stuff' flowing to an increasingly-parasitic population of citizens and NON-citizens, our National Debt-versus-GDP ratio is 123%, and once again, it's on the increase with no end to this madness in sight! Under either Democrats or Republicans, how soon will it be before this country cannot even pay the stinking INTEREST on the debt? Ooh! THAT's when the real **** hits the turbo-fan!

    [​IMG]. "OK, boys, deliver this thing to the White House -- ASAP!" :cynic:
     
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    Trump followers don't care what he does. He was correct when he stated he could kill someone and his followers would still back him. Biden is too far gone and should not be running the country. I don't want EITHER of them running the country but here we are with two crappy candidates yet again. That said, my prediction is Trump wins.
     
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    That is hilarious that you are using that as a defense for Biden. You can either believe the prosecutor and acknowledge that Biden is an old man who is losing his memory or not believe the prosecutor and acknowledge that Biden should be prosecuted for stealing the documents.
     
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    Most likely I didn't mention it because I didn't have anything to comment in that respect that would add anything to the discussion. I agree Biden will win. It's not going to be free, though.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not using it as a defense for Biden. I'm using it as yet another talking point that went... poof!... for MAGAs thanks to a prosecutor who is, himself, a MAGA.
     
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    Regardless of what you are using it for, it is hilarious that you would even mention it.
     
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    But here's the thing, Golem -- do you really think that after all the impossible-to-ignore examples of just how mentally 'far-gone' Biden is that they'll nominate him in August? Biden's a liability to the Democratic Party -- and so is that 'token', somewhat "blackish female" opportunist, Kamala-la-la Harris!

    I don't back away from my prediction (and yours) that Democrats will win in November, but for the actual "good of the country", won't they even consider someone who is at least not out of his ****ing mind -- like Joe Manchin, for instance? I could vote for Joe Manchin, and very likely a lot of other Independents could, too... but Biden?! :puke:
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't think the Democratic Convention will make a decision based on Republican propaganda. Biden is physically decaying, but mentally he's the same bumbling mumbling absent-minded gaffer he was in his 30s.

    Biden is not by far my favorite candidate in the Democratic Party... probably not even in my top 20 list. But he is the best candidate to defeat Trump.
     
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    Although I honestly believe that Joe Manchin, if teamed with someone who's not a 'woke' sycophant, can defeat Trump handily, it is more and more important that someone ascends to the Oval Office besides Trump! To a lot of people "in the middle", Trump was a sort of 'port-in-a-storm' back in 2016 for those who absolutely could not stand the idea of a corrupt, incompetent halfwit like Hillary Clinton in there, but it would an equally bad idea to have Trump back in office now.

    [​IMG]. :please: -- "C'mon, Senator! You can DO it!"
     
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    Manchin Won't Run for President

    'Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a 76-year-old centrist Democrat, said on Friday that he won’t run for president, ending months of speculation over whether he would mount a long-shot bid for the White House this year.'

    “I will not be seeking a third-party run, I will not be involved in a presidential run…I just don’t think it’s the right time,” he said.

    Nobody expected Trump to be leading for re-election by as much as he is.

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    Bribed Joe is 10.3 behind last cycle.
     
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    conservaliberal Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the news, Zorro, although it makes me feel even worse for the United States than I did before.

    Although there's less and less reason for hope, I keep thinking that maybe someone, from somewhere, somehow can enter the race besides Temperamental Trump and Geriatric Joe Biden. That 'someone' would have to be some variety of Democrat, because it's crystal-clear that no matter what, the next president must be a Democrat (mostly due to shoveling out unearned 'free-stuff', as I've already described a thousand times in other threads).

    Some point to RFK, Jr. as some kind of 'savior' who can step in and save us, but he's such a 'weird duck' -- seeming very conservative about some things... but then 'flaming-liberal' on others. Who and what is the real RFK, Jr.? Does anyone know for sure?

    But, truth? It may already be too late for anybody to save us. With your demonstrated expertise in economics, you know even better than myself the inescapable significance of a national debt-versus-GDP ratio of 123% (and RISING). When all the relevant factors are taken into account, how can we escape an eventual situation similar to what Argentina has already, with a 254% rate of inflation?!

    I haven't heard one single Republican or Democrat candidate even mention what will surely happen when we can't even make the interest payments required on our $34 Trillion dollar+ national debt....
     
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    He's getting my vote. He's a Liberal Democrat. The reason there seems to be commonality with Conservatives, is because Conservatives who are acting ideologically are working to conserve American Constitutional Liberal Democracy. Since RFK is a Liberal and I'm a Conservative, we disagree on many things, but, he thinks, he listens, he's open to evidence and he loves this Country with all of his heart, and we can all work with folks like that. That is our common ground, not our political allegiance, love for America and Americans.
    As Winston Churchill noted: "You can always trust Americans to do the right thing, AFTER they have tried everything else!"

    We're still trying everything else. But there is progress. Yes, 22 GOP Senators voted for the Ukraine first US Border last bill, but they were almost all Old Guard GOP. The younger GOP almost all voted against it.

    Paul Ryan would quickly pass the bill through the House
    McCarthy would posture and then pass it on Democrat votes.
    Johnson has stated that he will not even put it to a vote.
    It's a $100B but we have to start somewhere.
    Yes. We need to get spending back down to Trumpian pre-COVID levels, and guess what? He's leading in the race for re-election, and he will not be saddled with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell deliberately obstructing his efforts to bring spending under control.

    [​IMG]

    We can do this.
    We can right this ship.
    This election is very important, and the right pieces are still on the table.
     
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    There are a number of very desirable things about RFK Jr.'s political philosophy, and I'm certainly open to the idea that using the "shades-of-grey" measurement, he could be a vastly better choice for the country than either Trump or Biden.

    But, even without doubts about his odd, 'bi-polar' political stances, which paint RFK, Jr. as a somewhat bizarre combination of Conservative and Liberal, I remember that no 3rd-party candidate has ever come close to winning the presidency in modern times. When one couples that reality with the fact that the American population has become more and more addicted to government welfare and 'subsidy" programs (and other handouts) ever since Obama, it seems almost a dead-set certainty that some welfare-shoveling Democrat will be elected president in 2024.... How does anyone compete with that...?!

    The Demo nominee won't be Biden, because he'll step aside (to thundering applause and shouts of praise) at their convention in August. But whoever they choose next will win... I'd bet anything on that, knowing what we Americans have turned into as a people in the 21st-century.
     
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    A space ship more likely!!!
     
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