Tony Abbott Threatens to Deport Assylum Seekers Swearing or Spitting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...atens-to-deport-asylum-seekers-who-swear.html

Take note the anti immigration lobby, Tony Abbott could be your poster boy.


"Tony Abbott, Australia’s prime minister, has been accused of creating a “climate of terror” for asylum seekers after introducing a code of behaviour which threatens to deport those who swear, spit, irritate people or spread rumours."

Heaven help them if they fart!

 

Seems that Oz has a big problem with Indonesian and Papuan boat people, and this is one way of deterring them.

Good idea if you ask me.

 

They are not Indonesian nor Papuan. They are everything but. Sri Lankans, Iranians, Iraqi, Lebanese, Afghani etc. There has even been an increase of Vietnamese boat people of late. The boats are being launched from Indonesia, but the Indonesian government is doing very little to stop them. Many Indonesian officials are turning a blind eye or even taking bribes so the boats can go ahead.

 

I am glad the Ozzies have the balls to try and sort this out, at least they turn some of the boats away.

They should start doing this in the EU as well, IMO.

And how would you feel if your home town in Australia were overrun with Laos, Cambodians etc.. peasants stinking up the streets with their filth?

 

Utter tosh.

 

One of Tony Abbott's major election promises for the September Federal elections last year was he's going to stop the boats, not curtail the flow of boats but actually stop them.

When he realised this was impossible, he put a media blackout on any new arrivals or anything pertaining to the arrival of boat people. Any media organisations not complying with this order can be charged with sedition.

 

Gotta' link for that blackout and sedition angle? I have a hard time believing that Australia is that fascist...but stranger things have happened.

 

THE first asylum boat to arrive since Tony Abbott was sworn in as Prime Minister -- and a media blackout on new arrivals was imposed -- was escorted into Christmas Island yesterday

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...der-and-blackout/story-fn9hm1gu-1226724814899

The first asylum seeker boat has arrived since the coalition government introduced a new media blackout protocol, bringing the tally to eight since the federal election.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ince-media-blackout-rules-20130922-2u7po.html

 

you said 'utter tosh' to my last question - meaning what exactly?

 

You really don't know much about the boat people saga in Australia do you?

Firstly, you said it is the Indonesians and Papuans who are making their way to Australia by boat. Actually asylum seekers arriving by boat are sent to Papua New Guinea (and other islands in the region) for processing. Most are Sri Lankans, Afghani, Lebanese, Iraqi and a few Iranians. There has also been an increase in Vietnamese asylum seekers of late arriving by boat.

Secondly, you prattled on about Laos (meaning the people or the country?) and Cambodian peasants coming into my town and stinking up the streets with their filth. Don't you think that's a bit rich? You obviously have never met a Lao (to give him/her the correct handle) nor a Cambodian (Khmer if you like).

Do you have something against South East Asians?

 

They are ok people in their own countries, or in small numbers abroad perhaps, but the state of many of their cities leaves a lot to be desired.

A stroll around Phnom Penh for example, would really put most people off having a whole armada of them arriving.

Same could be said for many other places out there - Kuta Beach, Bali for instance, no thanks, vile!

 

Look where I live buddy, look where I live.

 

yes, I've seen that, and that's why I initiated this off-shoot to the topic.

Laos is ok, but only held together by an autocratic govt., but it's the Chinese nature for people to regress into disorder as soon as the rules are not enforced.

And that is not an especially great reason for having hordes of them arrive on the shores of the West, IMO

 

Over a 100,000 Vietnamese boat refugees have made their way to Australia in the 1970s and 80s, and settled there. The Vietnamese are now the forth or fifth largest ethnic group in Australia. I've yet to see the Vietnamese community "stinking up the streets with their filth" as you said.

I suggest you stay at home. It appears you are offended by anything remotely icky.

This is false. Laos is 'held' together by foreign investment and foreign aid.

 

Tyrants will always coerce you - the best you can do is ignore them and live your life. As an Australian I fully support anyone trying to enter the country illegally, for any reason whatsoever.

 

Cut the Cambodians some slack dude, there still trying to rebuild after a prolongued civil war and a murderous regime that went out of it's way to kill the best and the brightest. As far as the Lao are concerned they currently live in a country in which just getting from place to place is hazardous duty. The constant stress, fear, and worry involved in not knowing that your kid will come home tonight with the same number of limbs he left with has an aroma all it's own. As does not know whether your husband will survive the spring planting Fear really does stink but the aroma disappears when the fear does so much of what Abbot is doing is completely counter productive in that repect.

 

That's a pretty lame policy but it seems to fall short of your claim. Correct me if I'm wrong but this isn't a policy that disallows media organizations to transmit information about boat arrivals, but is actually just a government policy that doesn't transmit information TO the media for every single boat arrival as they happen. Neither of your articles mentioned anything about sedition.

 

So IOW, not really held together at all, just a pawn in the international money markets. So, what happens when the investors turn elsewhere, Burma for example?

 

Sounds like that's come straight out of a dumbed down travel book.

The KRouge - that regime finished in 1979 - yes 35 years ago!

Most people in Cambodia weren't even around then, get up to date man.

The KR has nothing to do with it.

 

There is an actually blackout imposed by the Abbott government on the broadcasting or mentioning of any refugee boat arrivals. This blackout was not imposed by the media itself.


After 911, the Howard government tightened sedition laws, which have been in effect since the mid 1880s. Any utterance challenging national security can be deemed as sedition. One law that came into effect was that journalist must reveal their sources of information, especially if the article pertains to national security. Not complying can be seen as an act of sedition. Why the Australian government is able to get away with this is because there is no prevision in the Australian constitution for freedom of speech, like in the USA. Also, Australia doesn't have a bill of rights. Therefore Australian journalists are more vulnerable for charges of defamation than their American or European counterparts.

Two journalists where charged for not revealing their sources.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational...rnalists-and-their-sources/3321796#transcript

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_McManus_and_Harvey

Getting back to the Abbott government, which stated refugee boat arrivals are a risk to national security. The Abbott government implemented Operation Sovereign Borders designed to strengthen borders, especially up north where refugee boats arrive. The Abbott government has also put a high ranking army officer to oversee the operations. Operation Sovereign Borders comes under the umbrella of the Ministry of Immigration and it's the first time in Australian history a high ranking military officer answers to the Minister of Immigration rather than the Minister of Defence.

The RAN has been given to power by the Australian government to tow any boats heading towards Australian waters back to international or Indonesian waters. This policy was also an Abbott promise during the 2013 elections.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4317894.html

"So, the proposal that Australian naval vessels return to Indonesian waters boats bound for Australia is an affront at a number of levels. It assumes the problem is Indonesia's alone, that Indonesia has the capacity to deal with unregulated immigration, and that its navy has the capacity to rescue people from often unseaworthy craft on the verge of sinking. It also assumes a lack of humanitarianism that, despite what some cynics might suggest, informs much of the thinking of Indonesia's political leaders. "

Any broadcasting or mentioning of refugee boat movement, because of the involvement of the RAN can be seen as a national security risk, and therefore deemed as sedition.

The Minister of Immigration and his department, no longer release details of boat arrivals to the media but hold weekly briefings instead for 'selected' media. In essence, what's happening is, the government is unable to 'hold' back the boats as promised during the 2013 federal elections so they are keeping the media and especially the Australian people in the dark. Recently, the PM was interviewed about the boat arrivals and mentioned the arrivals have stopped (or at least dropped to a trickle). It is now the monsoon season where small boat movement in that region grids to a halt. Once the monsoons are over, shipping will increase. The PM failed to mention this.

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so are you pro-immigration to Oz, or not?

 

The KR has everything to do with it. They tried to and very nearly suceeded at killing off everyone with an education, even going so far as to kill people who wore glasses just in case they might be educated. How far do you think your society is going to progress in thirty five years if they killed all the teachers.

 

Itwould probably annoy him even more once he discovers that a fair percentage of the Vietnamese boat people were Roman Catholics.

 

I'm an immigrant myself. Arrived as a four year old from Germany, so yes. But I do believe the Australian borders shouldn't be thrown open.

I remember when the White Australia Policy was tossed into the garbage bin. Originally it was the left that was pro White Australia Policy. PM Gough Whitlam also a Labor politician (centre left) started dismantling the White Australia Policy, but Malcolm Fraser, the following PM and right winger tossed it out.

There was a huge outcry about Australia being inundated by Asians and Africans, which didn't happen. The was a flow of SE Asians from 1976 until the 1980s, over 100,000 refugees Vietnamese, plus Filipinos, Thais, Cambodians etc settled in Australia. Also quite a few Indians, Chinese , Pakistanis who while the White Australia Policy was in force were stopped immigrating.

I don't have any problems with immigration to Australia. 25% of Australians weren't born in Australia, 40% have at least one parent born overseas.

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Tony Abbott is a devout Catholic. Interestingly, the Vietnamese community are traditionally conservative (Liberal Party) voters.

 

Australia's not obligated to allow any immigration whatsoever - no one has a "right" to immigrate, it's a privilidge

Though using "swearing" and "spitting" as grounds for denying immigration seems a little strange