Too much CO2 causing a climate crisis? Why not just plan stuff?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by gorfias, Sep 23, 2023.

  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Messages:
    29,097
    Likes Received:
    19,987
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those pushing climate change agenda already have their heads up their a$$.
     
    Aristophanes and gorfias like this.
  2. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    8,164
    Likes Received:
    4,029
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Grasses are better because when a wild fire comes through, the bulk of their carbon remains sequestered underground in the root systems and the grass grows back. Outlawing cellphones would reduce electric demand and carbon too but that won't happen ever. Changing the ingredients of concrete has been proposed. Family planning/abortion services in the third world would make a dent. Lots of things we can do realistically. Regreening the deserts isn't really one of them. The Colorado river no longer reaches the ocean. I don't know where they think the water to do this is going to come from.
     
    gorfias likes this.
  3. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Messages:
    6,127
    Likes Received:
    6,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Someone earlier noted it doesn't "come" from anywhere. It's just there, making up 71% of Earth's surface.
     
  4. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    26,767
    Likes Received:
    9,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    About 3% of that is fresh water and most of that 3% is locked and much deep underground.
     
  5. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Messages:
    6,127
    Likes Received:
    6,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Which means at a minimum, we need to engage in water management. Not pretend there isn't any.
     
  6. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    8,164
    Likes Received:
    4,029
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure because putting salt water on the deserts will really encourage them greening up. Just ask the residents of Carthage.
     
  7. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Messages:
    6,127
    Likes Received:
    6,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Or you can ask the Israelis that have been growing citrus fruit with salt water for decades. Ask an MIT student about desalination and more. We don't have a water shortage problem but a lack of water management problem.

    https://citrusindustry.net/2019/05/07/israels-dynamic-citrus-industry/
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2023
  8. conservaliberal

    conservaliberal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2010
    Messages:
    3,478
    Likes Received:
    1,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Back to reality: the dreaded Carbon Dioxide is an inorganic compound which is necessary for life on Earth. As a percentage of the Earth's atmosphere it makes up a whopping 0.04%. I wish I had ten bucks for every time I've ever posted this on any forum... I'd be driving a Bentley....

    [​IMG] Source: UCAR Center for Science Education
     
    gorfias likes this.
  9. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    32,060
    Likes Received:
    29,650
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It wouldn't succeed in concentrating wealth in the hands of the very few that the AGW crowd demands as a result. Actually being "green" isn't and never has been the point. The church isn't about succeeding at making the world a better place, just "winning".....
     
    gorfias likes this.
  10. Bob Newhart

    Bob Newhart Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2021
    Messages:
    4,149
    Likes Received:
    1,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually more trees is part of the problem. Trees are destroying the permafrost.
     
  11. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    8,164
    Likes Received:
    4,029
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The same people who want to solve global warming are opposed to nuclear. That is the only carbon free way to do it since "green energy" can't even keep up with demand in California with its blackouts. And BTW, Israel's power for desalination and water reclamation comes from fossil fuels. That water is about as "green" as a barrel of crude oil. It is an extremely energy intensive process.
     
    gorfias likes this.
  12. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Messages:
    6,127
    Likes Received:
    6,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe for now. Do it enough and you'll add to natural rainfall, lakes, riverways that will be salt free. But agreed. I am pro-nuclear.
     

Share This Page