Totally Anonymous Poll Question: Do Blacks Have Lower Morals?

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Generally speaking, do you think American Black people have lower morals than:

  1. Whites?

    6 vote(s)
    85.7%
  2. Hispanics?

    5 vote(s)
    71.4%
  3. Asians?

    5 vote(s)
    71.4%
  4. Muslims?

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%
  5. Other Groups (Explain)

    1 vote(s)
    14.3%
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  1. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Totally Anonymous Poll Question: Do Blacks Have Lower Morals?

    I don't need to know the identity of those who respond. I just want to know what and how you feel & think about this matter.

    Generally speaking, do you think American Black people have lower morals than:

    Whites?

    Hispanics?

    Asians?

    Muslims?

    Other Group(s) (Explain)

    As a Black man I believe I was raised to accept certain behaviors as justified.

    My next door neighbor would go around to the free Thanksgiving Turkey give-away locations to get as many free birds as he could when he knew that was an abuse of the system set up to help as many different people as needed a holiday meal. I shrugged my shoulders but recognize it is not an admirable thing to do.

    That's just one example..

    What do you think?

    In your opinion, GENERALLY SPEAKING, do Black Americans have lower morals than the groups listed above?
     
  2. Unifier

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    As a group, yes. But this is entirely learned behavior and it's been the result of well-meaning but thoroughly ignorant liberal policies that were supposed to help them. So it's really just been a steady progression downward over the last 50 years or so. Here's how it works. People typically live up to or down to whatever standards you expect from them. Liberals feel so guilty about past racial wrongs that they have gone out of their way to now treat blacks like children. They do everything for them so they can't be independent. And they don't hold them responsible for anything so they never develop any character. That's why they get mad at everybody else and call them racist whenever black people do something wrong. Because you can't scold the child. The child doesn't know any better. This attitude is what black conservative Larry Elder calls white condescension. And he correctly asserts that it actually does way more harm to black people today than any remaining racism in society.
     
  3. DeskFan

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    You should judge each person as an individual, but yes there is a higher percentage of African Americans who are criminals compared to any other race. There is a "culture" that is prevalent in many parts of America. According to this culture the individuals who are highly respected, have a lot of self worth, and have power are drug dealers, gangster, and criminals. Growing up in many parts of America if you do not conform to this "culture" you are verbally harassed, physically harassed, looked down upon, and are looked as being worthless. There are Asians, Mexicans, Caucasians, and members from all races that conform to this culture. I'm not sure how so many African Americans initially became apart of this culture, but it could be because they have been in America for so long compare to many other races. I once heard a person say that you right now are raising the great grandchildren that you will have in 100 years. The actions you make, the mentality you gain, and the person you become will affect the actions, the mentality, and the person your great grand children will become. Segregation only occurred 60-70 years ago. Being disadvantaged, not as educated, and not having as many opportunities back then surely plays a part in it. We all know what the problem is; the solution is what we need.

    As for the question, what makes them a "group"? why categorize people by race? Do people with mustaches have lower morals then people without them?
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The poll lacks a simple "no" option. Why?
     
  5. KevinVA

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    Probably to remove any chance of a cop-out. ;P

    I'd hate to generalize, but from my own experiences through meeting different people, I would say that it's definitely a learned behavior, but also a product of their environment. I have been fortunate to meet very moral and kind black people in my life. That being said, I grew up in a community that was predominantly white with a very low percentage of black families. I grew up about 30-40min outside of Atlantic City. So, while my community was quite peaceful and the black people I met were nice, there were other communities, such as the ones in Atlantic City or Pleasantville that weren't so nice. They had/have their ghettos, which were certainly predominantly black.

    I don't know what it is about black people and big cities, but they all congregate into the ghettos of these cities, as opposed to moving somewhere more affordable with more opportunity. Maybe it's because big cities are more liberal and have more welfare opportunities? I don't know. These places typically lack good housing, good educational systems and adequate work.

    About 15yrs ago my parents hosted a group of people from Uganda. There were about 3-4 black children and 2 adults (chaperons). They were members of the Watoto organization (and the children were in the Watoto Choir). Our church invited them to perform and bring their message to our community, and they needed volunteers to host the members of the choir, etc. Meeting those kids was really something. I got pretty close to them and the adults - can't even remember their names now, but I do remember quite a bit about them. We spent a short amount of time together, but certainly fit a bit in - beach, toured around South Jersey, boardwalk, had a picnic and they performed at the church (which was quite amazing - loved their performance. They were very talented children.).

    Anyway, I remember one conversation, specifically with one of the chaperons (the guy). We were driving through Pleasantville to get to Atlantic City. On the way through, he noticed a lot of trash in the yards and the dilapidation of houses, etc. It's just a completely different look from where we lived. He asked me if black people lived there, and I asked him why, and he basically said that "it's the same way in Africa. Black people just do not take care of their things. They throw trash everywhere, don't clean up after themselves and just let things go." He said that "it must be something genetic."

    Of course the black guy saying this was nothing like this. He was very kind, he cleaned up after himself and he cared about the kids he was chaperoning. That being said, churches have been going to Uganda to aid in the improvement of their lifestyle. He was very thankful for the help they received and while it was certainly donations of service, the Ugandans were put to work and learning, so they could do things for themselves. He was hopeful that things would improve and I think that if we remove government from the picture and start to help others on our own, again, we'll all start to see improvement, as well.

    Welfare keeps black people from doing things for themselves... and that leads to the development of ghettos, where these people all congregate and feed off each other. Nothing improves and once in a while, a glimmer of hope in the form of a Herman Cain or a Chris Gardner emerges. There is the ability to succeed, but it's not stimulated.
     
  6. Durandal

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    Can't argue here. If black communities are suffering from moral issues, then they and their enablers need to reevaluate what they're thinking and doing. Morality is only partially innate, it's true - the rest is learned at home and in the community, and also decided on an individual basis.

    I won't compare blacks as a whole to any other group, though. I don't much care for such generalisations. It's just the sort of thing Dr. Martin Luther King was speaking out against, this judgement based on skin color rather than more meaningful qualities that come from within.

    I suppose this dialogue that people seek to have about black issues on the community and societal level are worthwhile. They could at least serve to get blacks doing what they need to do to fix what is obviously ailing them. The most important thing for everyone is not to live for destructive lies. To thrive as a society, we must find ways to be mutually supportive rather than mutually antogonistic.
     
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    Let's instead of defining "moral," define "weakness" or "strength." What's weakness to some cultures/societies could be seen as strengths in others.

    Also, please help me to understand how it's strong to depend on someone else for your livelihood?
     
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    Something is missing in your poll: An answer that would say: NONE OF THE ABOVE.

    I do not believe that "morality" is linked to ethnicity, race, or religious affiliation. There are good and bad men/women, moral and immoral men/women in EVERY ethnic group, every race, and every religious affiliation.

    In fact, I think this poll, without the "none of the above" or a "NO" answer is insulting.
     
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    So many Americans are retarded
     
  10. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Because I feel too many people are so conditioned to political correctness in our society that including a, "NO" response would just give people a convenient default option which would tell me nothing more than I already know.

    That was the main reason.

    Also, formatting the poll to include a, "no" option would have required more than one poll, I think.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Yours is a PC type of response.

    A "none of the above" reply is best registered as you have done.

    Thanks for participating.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    I'm just skimming over the responses so far and will address some of the more detailed points later. However, I have to commend you on your atsuteness. I like it that you caught that point right away, especially as you are new here.
     
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    There isn't a "no" option .
    Who dictates what set or morals is high and what is low ?
    If a minority has a different set of morals from the majority this means that they are marginalized and live on the outskirts of society
     
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    Oh I see, you know other people will have a different opinion and so you need to silence them in order to get everyone to accept your worldview. Makes perfect sense. Nothing encourages the eradication of social thought control like being PC than manipulating people's ability to express their opinion.

    This thread is deeply hypocritical to say the least.
     
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    So you couldn't have put in something that wouldn't force us all to be racists?

    Going by personal experience blacks are MORE moral than whites. A gang of whites tried to kill me for no reason I could see. A black family saved my ass. Other whites just watched. I didn't see any Asians.

    It's impossible to answer anyway, especially in what is supposed to be a free country. Among 300 million free people one would expect there would be only such a wide agreement about what is moral that any characteristics you could assign to a whole race would be meaningless.
     
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    Did I miss something? Didn't Pregnar say he was black? This is akin to me asking "Why were so many white people racist back in the early to mid 1900s?" He's taken an objective stance, looking inward, toward people in his own "race," and asking a serious question about something he seeming takes issue with.

    Too many people are afraid of being called racists in here...
     
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    That's not the problem. The problem is he is only willing to accept some views and opinions as worthy of consideration, thus he has no desire for debate or discussion; just a vindication of what appear to be a set of extensive prejudices.

    Hey I'm not racist - I hate all races equally.
     
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    In reality I was devising a dummy detection system and you've been detected.

    EDIT: I just noted your sig citation of Noam Chomsky...it figures he'd be a hero of yours. LOLOL
     
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    I picked the "other" option. Figured it's the most sensible.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Yours is the sensible way of registering your view of the subject and registering your protest at the poll mechanics.

    Thanks for your participaion.

    :)
     
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    flamebait thread--closed
     
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