Transcripts Reveal Flynn Was Diplomatic, No Discussion Of Dropping Russian Sanctions

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    We were warned by Ben Franklin that we "have a Republic, if we can keep it." I don't see us doing anything effective to keep them from destroying it.

    The Trump-Russia investigation was a politically driven fraud from beginning to end. It was opened on false pretenses, sustained by investigative abuses, will end in recriminatory angst, as the accountability the victims demand does not come to pass.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/exposing-the-hoax

    Corrupt Obama and his administration officials exploited the awesome national security powers that we trust our government to use for counterintelligence operations that safeguard America from jihadists and other foreign hostiles. Because of the abuse, and the growing awareness that few of the abusers will be held to meaningful account, those powers have lost the solid constituency they had maintained in Congress for nearly two decades.
     
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    Jeffrey Jensen, the U.S. attorney for St. Louis, was given the ticket to scrutinize the Flynn case. His findings, accompanied by the rollout of previously redacted documents, resulted in the DOJ’s decision to dismiss the case, regardless of Flynn’s guilty plea to a false-statements charge elicited under the threat that Mueller’s team might otherwise indict his son on a dubious charge of failing to register as a foreign agent, due to work Flynn’s private intelligence firm did for Turkey.

    The FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation of Flynn on the baseless theory that he might be a clandestine agent of Russia. They were poised to close the case in late December, when Flynn engaged in perfectly appropriate communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Though Flynn had done nothing wrong, the bureau used the contacts as a pretext to continue the investigation.

    With predicate for neither a counterintelligence nor a criminal investigation, the FBI conducted an ambush interview of Flynn at the White House — Comey bragged about violating protocol, which would have called for approvals from the attorney general and the White House counsel. The session was an obvious perjury trap. In blatant violation of FBI procedures, the bureau edited the interview notes (the “302 report”) for weeks — a complication necessitated by the facts that, while the agents did not believe Flynn had lied to them, the point of the exercise was to lay the groundwork to get him removed as national security adviser. That plan worked when Trump fired Flynn. The bureau seemed to drop the matter, but it was revived months later by Mueller’s prosecutors, who were hoping to build an obstruction case against Trump, and to squeeze Flynn into cooperating. The prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence, made misrepresentations to the defense about the genesis of the 302 report, and hid from the court their agreement not to indict Flynn’s son if he agreed to plead guilty.

    Grenell forced the disclosure of documents showing that Flynn’s identity had been “unmasked” an astounding 53 times by 39 different Obama officials in just the few weeks between Trump’s election and his inauguration. The one time Flynn was not unmasked was in connection with his Kislyak call in late December. There, the FBI, consulting directly with the Obama White House, opted not to “mask” him at all, despite FISA procedures calling for doing so. The call was leaked, a felony, to the Washington Post.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/exposing-the-hoax
     
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    Given the brass knuckles Barack Obama’s investigators used on Trump and company, the president’s supporters are demanding justice. We do not have penal codes that make these abuses clearly crimes. We could see some prosecutions, particularly of officials who can be shown to have actionably lied or obstructed justice. But Obama and his top minions will skate.

    Barr is right that our government has politicized law enforcement and intelligence. There is no assurance that a future administration cannot quickly resume the game where Obama left off.

    WE endows our national security officials with sweeping secret authorities, and those officials solemnly commit that these authorities will only be used to thwart our enemies, not to spy on US or undermine the political process.

    Government operatives have clearly demonstrated that they cannot be trusted not to train the tools we need them to use against our enemies, against us. And we don't have laws and penalties on the books that will allow the public hangings necessary to convince the public that the abuse will end if they continue to have these tools and authorities.
     
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    Mueller and his flying monkeys repeatedly lied to Flynn, the Court and to the American People.

    Crazy Judge Sullivan's Filing To the Circuit Court is a Bad Joke

    Rather than address the legal issues, the submission is nothing more than an unhinged rant by an old man.

    First, Sullivan made a blatant mis-statement of fact on P.1 when Judge Sullivan claimed that the “false statements” made by Gen. Flynn to the FBI were “material.”

    https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/06/02/846660/

    Here are the key questions:

    “How the government’s investigation was impeded. What was the material impact of the criminality.”​

    When the answers to those two questions are “It was not” and “None”, then the allegedly “false statements” were not material and there was no crime. Sullivan was still expressing a need to have answers to those questions at the end of the hearing meant that Sullivan’s earlier “finding” that the allegedly false statements were “material” was factually baseless and improper on his part.

    The Circuit Court directed Judge Sullivan’s attention to its 2016 decision in United States v. Fokker Services. Judge Sullivan’s submission claimed that United States v. Ammidown, decided by the Court in 1973, was “controlling precedent” in the Circuit.

    He's not very bright.

    The language Judge Sullivan relies on in Ammidown is nothing more than dicta.

    Judge Sullivan in his order authorizing the filing of amicus briefs regarding the DOJ motion to dismiss, refers to the district court’s “inherent authority” to appoint an amicus counsel in a criminal case to argue the contrary position on the DOJ motion given that both parties to the case are in agreement. “Inherent authority” is a phrase used by courts to glom on to whatever “power” they think they need to do whatever it is they want to do. It’s amorphous and undefined – so it actually doesn’t exist. It is just “judicial fiat” that can be better summed up by saying “I’m the district judge and I can do whatever the hell I want.”

    In a few places in the filing Sullivan uses the term “plausible judicial question” as a basis to justify the inquiry that the Judge intends on pursuing. Other equally valid means of expressing this same concept are “Magic Argument That Appears Out of Thin Air” – or “Examples of Where Lawyers Just Make Sht Up.”

    Fokker Services says is a “presumption of regularity” that must be given to filings by the government that are within the normal course of the government’s work before the court. Judge Sullivan is attempting to pretend that this is still a debatable point.
     
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