Trayvon Martin: Typical teen or troublemaker?

Sucker punches don't carry you far. And I don't see how a man who pursues another man he suspects is a criminal gets sucker punched by the very same. Aside from that, we don't know if he was sucker punched or not. We do know there was an altercation, but we don't know how it started. Speculation isn't proof, and suggestive material isn't evidence. Aside from the kid being shot dead, Zimmerman seems to have taken the brunt of the altercation, but that doesn't make him the victim, that just makes him the weaker of the two.

Didn't know the guy was 5'7'' though. That does lean in his favor, considering that he may have thought his life was in danger. Beyond that, I only have speculations. A 5'7'' neighborhood watchmen armed with a gun, though he knows his role does not give him the use of force, pursues a 6'3'' young male against the cautioning of the actual police he was talking to. Speculation wise, I think his statement "these people always get away" followed by his pursuit, of which he was told he did not need to do, suggested an offensive state of mind where this patrolman felt he simply was not going to stand there and let what he thought was happening happen.

 

Trayvon was 6 foot .. 158 pounds.

 

Who happens to live in the liberal utopia that is prison.
3 squares free... lounging all day... no rent... sure... you have to give up some freedoms... but it is worth it right? Oh... and there are plenty of suddenly gay's that were straight on the outside. It is a multicultural bonanza.

 

This site is conservative and pro gun.

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/19465

 

<<<Mod Edit>>> It wasn't Sadanie.. it was that guy who posted about Stealth Jihad all day and night.

This blog calls GZ a bi-racial Hispanic.

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/19465

 

How tall is this man?


Because he thought his son was 6'3.

 

Wow a blog and lol at the term bi-racial Hispanic.

Do you have any idea how redundant that is.

 

The medical examiner said TM was 158 pounds.. 6 foot.

 

Yeah. Even so, height will give you an advantage, and Trayvon probably wasn't much less in weight. Doubtlessly more of a physical type than Zimmerman, all things considered. So, in the event that an altercation did take place, Zimmerman taking a pounding to the point of fearing for his life would not be too far out of orbit. The problem is finding out why the altercation took place. I can't see why Trayvon or any kid would react that violently to someone, especially someone associated with authority.

Here's how I see it. Ideally, Zimmerman approaches the kid and tells him to stop. Ideally, the kid stops. If he didn't, that meant Zimmerman had to chase him down and physically confront him. That would be a no-no. So, assuming he stopped, either Zimmerman explains himself, or the kid just turns around and pummels him. Doesn't seem likely, but it's possible. Assuming he didn't pummel him and Zimmerman explains himself, you would think that Trayvon would simply have said that he wasn't doing anything wrong. I don't believe anything suggesting TM was up to no good was found on him.

Now, we can say that he was doing something wrong and lying or he wasn't. Either way, there is no evidence. Further talking from this point leaves me unable to see how these two came into a fight unless Zimmerman said something that pushed the kid into a fury or he attempted to physically block or restrain the kid, which is also a no-no unless you are a cop.

Zimmerman being shorter makes it even more weird...

But then I think of a short man armed with a gun when he wan't supposed to playing cop around the neighborhood...

 

George jumped an ATF agent at a nightclub... and he had worked as a bouncer.. Threw some woman across the room. He was fired for being too aggressive.

I tend to agree with your scenario.

I think Trayvon was on his cell.. and asked George, "Why are you following me?"

I think he turned to walk away because he didn't get an answer.. and George grabbed at his hoodie.

I don't think George's injuries were cause by a savage beating.. TM's reputation is that he was friendly, funny and laid back.. not tempermental.

I don't think Trayvon attacked George at all.

This blog is conservative, pro-gun and anti Zimmerman.. There are some interesting observations about the forensics.

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/19465

 

Many Jewish sir names are German in origin but when someone hears those names in Florida they don't think German.

Why do you think that arguing that there is such a thing as a white Hispanic proves that Zimmerman is a whit Hispanic. Your argument is a fallacy. The ecistance if white Hispanics in no waw proves that the brown Zimmerman is a white Hispanic.

Oh thats priceless.

 

Like you know what everyone in Florida thinks.

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Like you know what everyone in Florida thinks.

 

Before Martin, the cops had never arrested any of them and Z seems to have gotten the idea that it was all because they were outsmarting the cops. He decided that this one was not going to gtet away and he could prove himself an actual man.

And stepped right on his crank.

 

There is no proof that Martin circled back, and the cops were pretty stupid to think that Z's owies matched his story without a real medical examination.

 

If martin was not running, Z had time to head him off at the cut-through. He was running at least part of the time.

Or he could have led a dangerous pervcert to his home.

Some sociopaths will think they have to shoot a suspect who is running. Remember all the hoopla about that sociopathic piece of crap Joe Horner?

Running is not always a good idea. Learn some basic escape and evasion tactics.

 

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