Trends In American Education

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  1. Taxcutter

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    Spending and student performance over the last 44 years.

    Spending has almost tripled.
    Performance is flat.

    http://www.cato.org/blog/addressing...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    quote:
    “…per-pupil spending and achievement are not obviously correlated.”

    Taxcutter notes:
    The charts were prepared from Department of Education data.

    In the second chart (the one with two y-axes) note the inflections of the spending line in the late 70s and late 90s.

    Put any spin you like on it but you can’t get around the obvious. Spending more does not lead to better performance. If we are going to have poor performance anyway, why spend so much on it?
     
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    Spending more money doesn't help? Better spend more money.
     
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    US education relies on the convoy system. You move as fast as the slowest child. What do you do if a student is bored because the class is moving ahead too slowly? Who cares, funding isn't tied to them.
     
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    Cut the funding and ditch the convoy system.
     
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    Not any more. Most schools now are concentrating on the middle kid. Why? Well, with standardized tests, if you concentrate on the slow kids, then the middle and high kids aren't exposed to enough. The bad thing is that the slow kids get further and further behind.
     
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    You'd think allowing students to move at their own pace would make the most sense. Finland does it. They beat everyone.
     
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    It's easier said than done.
     
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    Nothing worthwhile is usually easy.
     
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    Taxcutter asks:
    Is that not the natural downside to being slow?

    Under the Finnish system (if you can truly make it work):
    The geniuses graduate from high school at age nine or younger.
    Relatively bright or hard working kids graduate for high school at age thirteen.
    Average kids graduate form high school at age seventeen.
    Dummies never graduate.

    If the requisite information has been transferred to the next generation, is there any reason they cannot be emancipated and enter the work force at whatever age they are? Do dummies get life-long day care?
     
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    Our best still blow away anyone from Finland.
     
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    Y'all need to just pick a Scandinavian country and copy whatever they're doing.
     
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    And this is why your education system sucks.

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    No, one of them decided to copy the American system and saw their educational scores crash.
     
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    Seems to be pumping out the best and brightest in the world still. Our colleges still rank the highest. Sure our average is down but then again we have demographics which certain other countries do not...and 300+ mil which certain countries do not.
     
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    Our system went down hill the day the Department of Education was formed
     

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