True the Vote admits it can’t backup dropbox fraud claims featured in 2000 Mules film

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    We've been telling you guys on the right that 2000 mules was nothing but donkey manure.

    The sick thing is that because of this film, the number of drop boxes were drastically reduced in black neighborhoods, thus putting more barriers to democracy for a minority group.

    Here's proof:

    https://www.gregpalast.com/true-the-vote-admits-it-cant-backup-dropbox-fraud-claims/

    In a recent court filing, 2000 Mules gangsters, True the Vote, admitted that they didn’t have any back up whatsoever for their claims that Black people got $10 per ballot to vote several times and stuffed them in dropboxes.

    In response to a subpoena issued by the Superior Court of Fulton County, Georgia, on behalf of the State Election Board, who had made a request for information, True the Vote admitted that they don’t know the name of their “anonymous” source, and they have no confidentiality agreement, which they had previously claimed existed. Indeed the right-wing group now say they have no physical evidence whatsoever in their “possession, custody, or control”.



    And here is the court document that substantiates the article:

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24426932/response.pdf

    "True The Vote", the organization behind the film, were subpoenaed for documents
    to prove their claims in the film. Such as:

    Exhibit A to the Subpoena: 1. The “detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta” referenced in your November 30, 2021 complaint (“Complaint”), including any recordings, transcripts, summaries, testimony, statements, witness interviews, notes, or other documents describing such account, including the identities and contact information for the people who gave such detailed account
    TTV's response:
    TTV does not have in its possession, custody, or control identity and contact information. Any otherwise potentially responsive non-privileged items not requiring retrieval of massive amounts of raw data from cold storage, that are within TTV’s possession, custody, or control are being provided.

    And it continues on from there with 10 more examples of requests and denial of documents to prove their accusations.

    "2000 mules" is bunk. Shame on the right for this DISINFORMATION and ELECTION LIES.

    (From the article, above: )
    What makes the story so sickening is that the Republican controlled Georgia state Election Board was quick to denounce True The Vote’s claims about stuffed dropboxes. Nevertheless, to stop this crime wave that never happened, Gov. Brian Kemp radically reduced the number of dropboxes in Black counties, while increasing them in white counties. Despite the lack of any evidence of a single case of a fraudulently cast absentee ballot, they have choked off almost entirely access to mail-in ballots, used overwhelmingly by Democrats.

    Underlined links to;
    https://www.gregpalast.com/mail-in-ballots-in-georgia-plunged-by-1-million-2/

     
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  2. Cybred

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    No he's not.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The right can't win on numbers, and they definitely can't win on message (they are empty of all but hate and revenge). Their only option, for the last couple of decades, has been to cheat. This is simply more of the same.

    Not saying the Democrats haven't engaged in some misdeeds, but nothing comes close to the gerrymandering, precinct closing, drop box removing, voter suppressing bee ess we've seen since Trump became the first president ever to refuse a peaceful transition over his personal ego and refuse to accept the will of the voters.
     
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    You can't throw a pebble at that "documentary" without hitting bull **** lies.
     
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  5. Hey Now

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    Denish DeSouza and TrueTheVote are cons and profiteers. DeSouza owes Trump for the pardon and they are brothers in crime fleecing the same flock.
     
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    More left wing misinformation and propaganda...

    Let True the Vote speak for themselves... The FBI and GBI never touched the 1000’s of affidavits...

    https://twitter.com/TrueTheVote/status/1775625397431877718

    video
    https://twitter.com/TrueTheVote/status/1775625397431877718/video/1

    ""Witness Harry Haury testified today about 1000’s of affidavits he says were submitted to the FBI but never investigated. When TTV brought our geospatial (cell phone) information to the FBI we told them we believed were looking at a massive RICO case. They agreed, but said they couldn’t investigate unless they could prove a financial nexus of > $50,000. Of course, to prove that we needed them … to investigate. The FBI also gave our data to the GBI, which is confirmed in the attached letter from the former GBI Director Vic Reynolds, yet neither agency ever investigated further.""

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKRJz10WoAALC85?format=jpg&name=large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKRJz10XMAAXVMj?format=jpg&name=large

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  7. yardmeat

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    The same "geospatial data" they had been caught lying about . . . after already using fake maps in the "documentary" . . . and after lying about their connection to FBI murder investigations in order to fake their credibility?
     
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    Uh, that doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that they failed to more thoroughly document their findings.
     
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    Please show us the DOJ investigation and final report about the "geospatial data" being fraudulant.. It is the same geospatial data used everyday by law enforcement.... it is being used today by the DOJ 2 years later to identify all devices in a 4-acre area, including the Capitol and its immediate surroundings, between 2 pm and 6:30 pm on January 6.
     
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    I'm glad we can agree they failed and that it is dumber than a pet rock to continue referencing this lying "documentary."
     
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    No law enforcement agency, anywhere, makes the claims about geospatial data that they made. You've fallen for braindead lies.
     
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    Yeah, it's time to stop fighting the last war. Both sides have had four years to come up with better cheating.
     
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    Just so you know, I volunteered about 80 hours per week for 6 weeks validating the videos for TTV. The guy they linked is a shill. Not a reliable source in any way whatsoever.
     
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    And we should accept that as proof? Appeal to Authority fallacy is well known and overused, IMHO.
     
  15. Patricio Da Silva

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    Yeah, they made sh*t up
     
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    As an expert in that skill your observation is noted.
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    Let me know when you have a substantive rebuttal.

    They admitted they got nothing in the 11 requests for evidence, to back up any claim made in the film.

    So, from that, it's reasonable to conclude they pulled it out of their assess, hoping Trump would repeat, and you know the old saying, lies travel around the world before the truth can tie it's shoes. That was the strategy, but the made the film too early, because they gave the fact checkers plenty of time to debunk the film, and now the world is finding out what a bunch of liars Republicans are. The world is finding out that Trump is a criminal pervert con man who has nothing but Trump, and not you or anyone else on his mind. It's all about him. He doesn't give one hoot about you or me or anyone else. If you think otherwise, you've been Trumped.

    And what is your rebuttal? "doesn't mean it didn't happen'?

    yeah, well, it doesn't mean that aliens didn't sink the Titanic, either.

    In short, epic FAIL.
     
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  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Like I'm going to take your word for it. I've already heard many repubs on this forum claim thehy have 'evidence' but when the rubber hits the road, it isn't the kind of evidence that proved anything. Just innuendo, anecdotal, etc.

    Now then,

    A subpoena for documenting claims, 11 items altogether, was issued.

    The court document, TTV's rebuttal, is that on EACH ONE THEY SAID THEY HAD NOTHING TO BACK UP THEIR CLAIM.

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24426932/response.pdf

    So I have no idea what 'shill' you are referring to.
     
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    Yeah, whatever. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thank you for conceding defeat.
     
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    what's the difference? According to the left, blacks cannot even obtain IDs (who knows man, must be some systematic racism thing i guess)
     
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    Would it kill you to be intellectually honest? Dude, we literally had Republicans poll black people who WERE using IDs to find out what IDs they were using, and then tried to make it illegal for them to use those forms of ID. That's not even systemic racism. That's a racist surgical strike. That sort of thing is why rational people don't trust the GOP when they start harping on voter ID.
     
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    If people used the official ballot dropbox down the street from my house to do it, no one would ever know one way or the other. Its completely unmonitored.
     
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    Couldn't care what you accept. You said you had been trying to find out yourself for 3 full years. Just letting you know how you can find out yourself and save you time.
     
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    Law enforcement uses the same geospatial data EVERYDAY... @yardmeat
     

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