I realize this is somewhat of a conspiracy, but I am having more and more difficult of a time believing the candidates aren't working together somehow. First off, Trump has donated to the Clintons, and the Clintons have attended one of Trump's weddings. So they have some prior connections and weren't enemies going into the race. Secondly, whenever the pendulum starts to swing towards one candidate, the other one always catches up. Look at Hillary's medical event on 9/11....the momentum swung to Trump's side afterwards, but as he was starting to overtake Clinton in the polls, he bombed the first debate. Donald has had countless opportunities to bury Hillary due to her baggage and medical issues. Every time an opportunity comes up to do this, however, he says something stupid and usually starts ranting about Obama's birth certificate or something similar. It's like he's running solely to guarantee a Hillary win. Maybe it's just the conspiracy theorist in me, but there's no way you can run a campaign this poorly while actually trying to win the presidency. If ANY other candidate from either party had won their respective party's nomination, the election would have been over by now, but all I see from Donald and Hillary is a sloppy game of hot potato.
I do not think this is a far fetched idea. It has been the worst general election in history. One could only hope it's an intentional act, or we the people have failed ourselves. Pity, pity.
Conspiracy Theory or not. Around July of last year a Republican County chairman down here told me much the same thing you are wondering. Back then Trump had talked to Bill Clinton on the phone one week or so prior to making his announcement to run for the presidency as a Republican. The GOP chairman told me it was Trump's job to make sure Hillary won. His first task was to disrupt the Republican primaries. He did a great job at that. He created feuds between him and the Bush's, between him and Kasich, Cruz, Ryan, McCain, the GOP party leadership, Republican elected officials and Trump made plenty of enemies. Somehow he won, I highly doubt he ever expected to. Now as their nominee, his constant foot in mouth disease is dooming him. Trump still has around 20% of the Republican base still peeved at him for the personal negative attacks he made on the other candidates, former presidents and anyone whoever said a bad thing about him. Trump has not made any attempt to unite the party and bring back those 20% of anti or never Trumpers. He flat out said he doesn't need them. Then Trump hasn't tried to expand his base or to attract independent voters into his camp. He won the primaries with 40% of all the Republican voters, he seems to think he can win the general with 40% of the general electorate vote also. The problem with that is that there aren't 17 candidates to divide up the vote. It is basically between him and Clinton. If this isn't a conspiracy, it should be one. It seems Trump is trying very hard to give this election to Hillary. Perhaps that was his goal all along. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html I agree, no candidate can be as dumb or run such an inept campaign without trying. I would like to know is how in the world Trump persuaded 40% of the GOP primary voters to vote for him? Trump acted like a 5th grade school yard bully during the primaries and he hasn't stopped. It is not that the total electorate is in love with Hillary Clinton either, its not. Hillary is seen in a negative light by 55% or a bit more of all Americans. But Donald Trump is seen in that negative light by 60% of the total electorate. With all of Hillary's baggage, with 65% of all Americans think she is dishonest, a liar, not trustworthy, Trump is acting, doing and saying things that make more Americans feel his isn't honest, he is a liar, he isn't trustworthy and he has the temperament of a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum. Hillary is ahead today because she knows how to at least act presidential. Trump continues to act like he is running for a reality TV show host instead of the highest office in the land. Yes, almost any other Republican candidate would be ten points ahead of Clinton instead of behind. Also any other Democratic candidate would be 15 points ahead of Trump and the fat lady would have sung already. What a crazy election. I am actually very close to buying into your theory.
Actually our two major parties failed the American people when they nominated these two. By doing so they showed all of America they didn't give a tinkers hoot how the people felt or wanted or didn't want. In February Rasmussen conducted a couple of polls, one show 61% of all Americans want the Republicans to nominate someone other than Trump. The other stated 56% of all Americans wanted the Democrats to nominate someone besides Hillary Clinton. Neither party listened to the majority of Americans, they told America to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Which has become the norm for our two major parties.
Logical theory and one I'd considered several times. Our government and political system has been hijacked. Since 9/11 it's been clear that we need to use our first right, the one that protects all other rights. The right to alter or abolish.
Yes, such a conspiracy would not surprise me in the least. It is exactly what one would expect from a cabal of corrupt politicians who began selling out the USA after the assassination of John F.Kennedy, and have worked diligently to keep undermining the USA with the NWO puppets: GHWB, Bill Clinton, GWB, and Barry Obama. Why should we expect to be able to select a candidate that people can have some respect for. Instead, the deliberate destruction of the Constitutional Republic has been achieved, and we the American people are witnessing the final death of our freedom, and our security, our way of life. Starting in January 2017, expect a wave of radical Muslim bombings every week, if not every day, riots in cities, and waves of MILLIONS of illegal aliens who will flood the USA, and the internet controlled by an "international" organization, which means this very poltical forum itself may become just another NWO control mechanism.
Pretty much. Both parties continue to do as they want and not as the people they supposedly represent. Yet when stepping into the voting booth, the allure of the R or the D is so strong, they smile, bend over and continue to vote for them. We have no one to blame but ourselves as we let both major political parties dictate pushing their own agenda instead of the peoples. We do get the government we deserve.
For me the light bulb moment was years ago when the capitol hill slime balls refused to stop insider trading. I knew there was a serious problem before that, but that's when I lost all hope there was some redeeming quality to the Washington bureaucrats.
For me it was Ross Perot. He told me to stuff cotton in my ears or wear earplugs to drown out the rhetoric. Just watch how each party governs, do not listen to the rhetoric which are polar opposite. You will find out each party governs about the same, each party is afraid to bite the hand that feeds them. They tinker around the edges of government, never changing it or its direction. Most of us have become like sports fan of our favorite sports team when it comes to our two major political parties. We don't care how they win or what they do to win, as long as they win. Most of use will over look their indiscretions, their sucking up to the moneyed elite, telling the people one thing and doing just the opposite. In short we don't hold them accountable, it is just win baby.
The right ignores true conservatives while pushing their neoconservative war hawk policies. Outside players like Perot, Paul and Johnson are antithetical to their desire to govern the world.
Very true. Real or traditional conservatives need not apply. Both parties want to govern the world. The world is messed up enough without us having to stick our nose into every corner of the globe. Most of the times we just make it worst and cause more death and destruction.
Be fair. The DNC worked to get Clinton nominated and succeeded. The RNC worked hard to prevent Trumps nomination but failed.
Alright. Clinton nomination was a sure thing just before the 2012 election happened in a meeting between Bill, Hillary and Obama. Heck, Hillary had 30 Super delegates locked up before the year turned to 2013. Sanders was just for show. Just so the Democrats wouldn't have to say they anointed her in 2012 as their nominee. Yeah, the RNC knew what they were getting in Trump. Perhaps many of the 60% of Republicans who voted against him or for someone else during the primaries also knew. But they were too fractured and couldn't decide on a candidate to stop Trump. Now the Republicans will pay the price for nominating Trump, a President Hillary Clinton. The problem with that so too will all the rest of us. That is what happens when it becomes much more important to send a statement than to win an election in November. You nominate a loser, Mourdock, Aiken, O'Donnell, Angle all come to mind as statement candidates which lost big time when the GOP should have, almost had those senate seats cinched with anybody else as their candidate.
We can always pretend to have adopted a "worse is better" strategy and the increased black rioting, inundation of Mexicans, Muslim terrorism and rape jihad, not to mention getting bogged down in Syria and a dramatic rise in tensions with Russia will disgust the American people and turn them decisively toward the Republicans.
And I suspect Johnson is there to "take a fall" as well. Just like the two major parties, the LP picked the worst candidate out of the possible choices. Johnson isn't even libertarian, he's a damn SJW who wants to use government to force people to engage in commerce (i.e. Nazi wedding cake) and get triggered and language police when people say "illegal alien". Plus, he doesn't seem to know (*)(*)(*)(*) about anything going on in the world. I really wanted to go all in on the LP this time, but Johnson is just pathetic. McAfee would have owned, and even that 15 year old homo would have been acceptable, even if he just spoke in bumper sticker slogans.
All things that should have been thought about prior to Trump's nomination along with the SCOTUS. I am sure all the things you mentioned above will come about in President Hillary Clinton's tenure. But the nomination of Trump gave most people little choice, this was an election the Republicans were sure to win with a decent candidate. Then they nominated Trump. The GOP screwed the pooch and handed the oval office to Hillary by doing that.
The media is also in the tank for hillary. Notice how the loved trump in the primaries and then did a 180 after he won. They knew any other Rep would wipe the floor with her.
But that's my point, the LP could have nominated anyone else who was running, and we would instead be presented with two evils and a good. And THAT'S what a third party needs to have a chance today. You can't just be a third evil vying for "least".
I agree, but these are our choices now. Writing in a candidate or not voting are not an option this election. Hillary will be a disaster for this country.
I agree, but for me, that means Trump. He may be the second most evil of the three evils, but he is the only one with a snowball's chance of beating the most evil evil. I wish the LP had presented a candidate that people could get behind, someone who could really challenge the duopoly. But Johnson is not that candidate.
