Trump and the 7 Deadly Sins

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  1. Aryeh B.

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    Did I say anything about Christianity? The judgment of God will not be according to our personal moral codes, but according to our attitude toward the Word of God, which will be embodied in the Second Coming of Christ in the form of Israel. Imagine that now in the role of Jesus Christ is Israel. The constituent parts of Israel are people, Jews and non-Jews, gathered from the nations. According to your attitude toward those who will make up the future Israel, will be God's attitude toward you. And also according to your attitude toward Israel itself, especially when the Third Temple is built.
     
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    Sure now. That you suggest Trump publicly commits these vices is obviously judgement as if you have some authority to know. As I understand your religion, only God can judge.
     
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    Yes! This reminds me of Steve Bannon talking about a war between good and evil soon, maybe a civil war?

    Steve Bannon said, "flood the zone with sh!t" and revealed a GOP strategy to overwhelm media channels and public discourse with misinformation, controversy, and noise. This is besides Project 2025. It is a method of the Nazis to influencing public perception by creating so much confusion, false information, and contradictory narratives, BIG LIES, that it becomes difficult for people to discern the truth, overwhelming the media with constant, often conflicting stories would make it hard for any single, coherent narrative to take hold, thus disorienting the public and making it more difficult to hold anyone accountable for specific issues or events. "In Springfield, they are eating the dogs!" BIG LIE

    If both sides of the "civil war" think they are good and the other is the evil one. How do we know which side is good or evil? Judge them by their fruits, and which side has a leader that consistently ACTS evil and talks like a mobster? Which side has a leader that shows outrageous self-importance, excessive pride and is a man of lawlessness, or as the KJV calls him "man of sin"? Nobody in this world exalts themself as Trump does daily.

    2 THESSALONIANS - THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS

    3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs [JAN 6] and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in [Mar-A-Lago] God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be [president] God.

    5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way [Jack Smith & Fani Willis were "taken out of the way"]. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth [Covid pandemic in 2020], and destroy by the splendor of his coming [in 2024??]. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the [BIG ELECTION] lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing [Ashley Babbit was shot & many rioters in prison]. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion [DJT] so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

    2 Thessalonians 2 NIV - The Man of Lawlessness - Concerning the - Bible Gateway
     
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    From what I wrote, you made a number of assumptions one being you have no Idea oif my relationship with God and, sorry,I don't accept you as my judge.
     
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    That's a lot of words to say Orange. Man bad.Lol
     
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    Yes, isn't 2 Thessalonians spooky and crazy as our time?
     
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    A lawless person is something completely different. It is more than just an Antichrist. The Antichrist is a person who, while calling himself a Christian, actually builds the kingdom of this world, an empire, a world system. The Antichrist is a "Christian" Caesar, king, or president. The more a president pretends to be a Christian, the more he fits the definition of the Antichrist. By this criterion, President Trump is a bad Antichrist. The real Antichrist was President George W. Bush.

    But the "Man of Sin" is not a specific person. The "Man of Sin" is the idol of Jesus Christ, who replaced God in the "temple of the living God." What holiday has been celebrated since the 4th century as Christmas? The birthday of the Roman sun god, December 25.

    And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. (Ezekiel 8:16)

    25 people - December 25, bow to the sun god.

    The real Jesus Christ, according to Scripture, was born in the fall, on the 8th day of the 7th month of Tishrei (approximately September-October). Instead of Passover on the 14th of Nisan, they began to celebrate Easter on an arbitrarily appointed day. Easter is the holiday of the goddess of fornication and fertility Astarte with unclean rabbits instead of lambs. Instead of the Sabbath established by God, they began to celebrate the day of the sun god, Sunday. They began to preach that the law was abolished, although Jesus directly said that the law of God is eternal. Instead of the main commandment, which states that God is one, they forced everyone to accept the false teaching of the trinity, limiting God to the number 3. Having abolished the law, they began to demand tithes, although according to the law, tithes are brought only by Jews and given only to the descendants of Levi. According to the law, tithes can only be brought in natural products from the land of Israel, and cannot be replaced by a monetary equivalent. According to the law, tithes are brought after the first fruits, the first fruits of the earth, are brought to the Temple - otherwise it will be the tithe of Cain, who brought the remains instead of the first fruits. The entire Christian religion has become a complete lawlessness, a political farce, a place of common fornication with this world. And that false Jesus that this religion preaches is the "man of sin" in the "temple of the living God."
     
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    Where did I tell you that I would be your judge? God will judge us by our attitude toward Israel and the people who will make up Israel after the Third Temple is built there. Those people who enter the eastern gate of the Temple will judge everyone. Have I already been honored by God to enter the eastern gate of the Temple? The Temple has not even begun to be built yet.
     
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    None of which you managed to link to Trump by other than LW horse poop.
     
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    That is all very interesting, but of the 27 Bible verses (see below) that describe the Antichrist, none remind me of Bush. They all sound like Trump. Would you please explain how the real Antichrist was Bush?

    15 Bible Verses Identifying Trump as the Antichrist - YouTube

    12 More Bible Verses Identifying Trump as the Antichrist (youtube.com)

    Evangelicals Are Blinded to Donald Trump (youtube.com)
     
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    Except for this one:

    "In today's context, pride can manifest as arrogance, vanity ["I'm more beautiful than Kamala"], and an inflated sense of self-importance (exalts himself daily). It may lead individuals to overlook their faults, refuse constructive criticism, and prioritize their desires over the well-being of others. (His reelection was more important than thousands of American lives) However, it's important to distinguish unhealthy pride from self-respect and confidence, which are considered positive traits."
     
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    The name "George" in Greek Γεώργιος means "farmer". Cain was the first farmer.

    "Bush" refers to the bush that became a sign for Moses to encourage the Jews to the Exodus.

    If the prophet Ezekiel had heard the name George dictated to him in English, he would have written down "Gog" (because there is no letter in Hebrew for the "dʒ" sound, and the "r" is not pronounced).

    President George W. Bush claimed that God blessed him to become president. Jesus Christ, when they wanted to take him and make him king, retreated to the mountains. Moses, when Queen Hatshepsut carried out a coup d'etat in Egypt, removing Thutmose III in order to save her favorite, Moses, did not return to Egypt to become co-ruler with Hatshepsut. What spirit could lead George W. Bush in the opposite direction to Christ and Moses?

    If you write "George Bush" in Hebrew, with one deviation from the standard ("sh" is written with 2 letters, instead of one "shin"), the sum will be 666:

    G = 3 (gimel)
    e = 5 (heh)
    o = 70 (ayin)
    r = 200 (resh)
    g = 3 (gimel)
    e = 5 (heh)

    B = 2 (beth)
    u = 70 (ayin)
    s = 300 (shin)
    h = 8 (cheth)
    total = 666
     
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    And you think this proves what?
     
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    I don't believe the Bible is that clear on what you are saying. Many if not all Christians believe that even blasphemy may be forgiven should the individual repent. I don't believe that Jesus has suggested that the repentance of an individual would be denied should the person have blasphemed earlier.

    Also, your interpretation of Matthew 25 is that whole nations may be convicted, should they fail the stated test of the sheep and the goats.

    But Christianity is a very personal religion, not a political decision by a nation. Do you really think that Jesus will check citizenship?

    Surely one must interpret that use of "nation" to specify the breadth of those who will be judged - all people of all nations.

    Matthew 25 has strong statements from Jesus on how Christians MUST live their lives.
     
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    Are you suggesting that Christianity is related to numerology?

    And, why did you skip his whole middle name?
     
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    Lol, fun you should write a movie script
     
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    An you know this, how?
     
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    Curious, you think Kammy isn’t vane or arrogant? Really?
     
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    Obviously, one has to have a good deal of self confidence to run for president.

    But, being a flat out narcissist, such as Trump, is not helpful in the job.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Blasphemy against Jesus Christ can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit was typical of religious people. When a person, due to his religious prejudices, stubbornly calls, for example, the healings that Jesus performed evil, then God has no way to prove this person wrong. Such a religious fanatic will insist until his death that Jesus is a deceiver and does everything by the power of the devil. This is the sin unto death: God has no way to prove this person wrong, because all that God has for proof is the Holy Spirit.

    As for the judgment of nations, the quality of a nation is determined, firstly, by the number of righteous people among them. Secondly, the quality of a nation is determined by the attitude of the majority of that nation toward those righteous people. An example of this is Sodom, where there were too few righteous people, and God decided to remove those righteous people altogether, because the righteous people themselves were threatened with violence by the inhabitants of Sodom.

    Now it will be exactly the same: God will take the righteous people to the eastern gate of the Third Temple, to the wedding feast. At first He will not take everyone, but only a part - "the elect from the four winds", they are also "the glory of the Lord" (in Ezekiel), they are also "the messengers of the churches", they are also "the Philadelphia church" in Revelation, they are also "the tithe" from the "harvest" of people saved by Jesus Christ, they are also "the lost tribes of Israel" headed by Ephraim, they are also "the male child" caught up to the "throne of God" in the Third Temple. After this, there will be polarization in religion and in the world, division into opponents of the Temple and saints, and allies of the saints and the Temple in Israel. Scripture says that the majority will be opponents of the saints and the Temple. All nations will "fight" against Heavenly Jerusalem. Here Zechariah does not mean literal military actions, but the general dissatisfaction of the nations with God's decision to give primacy to Israel. At the same time, at the first stage, even the majority of Jews will not approve of the Temple. Judaism recognizes the appearance of Jesus Christ in the saints gathered in the Temple only after the 6th vial of wrath. The rest of the nations - only after the 7th vial of wrath. The allies of the saints remaining in the nations will be "in the desert" - the "woman" who gave birth to the "baby" will flee "into the desert", where she will be supported by angels. Hence the judgment described in Matthew 25. The degree of defeat of a particular nation will be determined by its personal persistence in opposing Israel, opposing the Jews. Naturally, the nations that gave Israel a greater number of saints will be able to come to the right decision faster.

    In fact, any parables and the Book of Revelation schematize, simplify real processes in order to make them understandable to us. Repentance occurs individually for each person, but the parables draw us a generalized image of the "nation". After the appearance of the "elect from the four winds" at the eastern gate of the Temple, other people, friends, relatives of these saints will be able to come to Israel and join the saints. This is like the remelting of gold - from all the original material that rushed to Israel, only those worthy of being there will remain. They will be able to reach "1335 days". They will be declared "Emmanuel". They will receive the hereditary inheritance of the tribes of Israel. The rest, even those who come to Israel, will be disappointed - God will not allow them to settle there, they will get into temptations and will not find an environment for their habitation in Israel.
     
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    In Revelation 13 we are directly commanded to count the number of the beast's name:

    Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (13:18 )

    The name of the "beast from the sea" and the name of the "beast from the earth" are mentioned in the New Testament, both of these words in the original Greek have numerical values equal to 666:

    εὑπορία = (5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 + 10 + 1) = 666

    This word is mentioned in Acts 19:25. In the KJV it is translated as "riches", in the NASB it is translated as "prosperity". The word itself has many shades, which come down to the comfort of life, access to all kinds of benefits.

    For a certain [man] named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen; Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said, Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.
    (Acts 19:24,25)

    There is a reference to this word in Scripture:

    If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.
    (1 Corinthians 15:32)

    This alludes to the episode in Acts 19 where a mob of idol makers wanted to kill Paul for the Gospel he preached. The beginning of the rebellion came from this very word, the Gospel threatened the Prosperity of the Liars.

    The Beast from the Earth, the false Jesus in false Christianity, also has the number 666:

    παράδοσις= (80 + 1 + 100 + 1 + 4 + 70 + 200 + 10 + 200) = 666

    This word is translated as "tradition".

    Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. (Matthew 15:1,2)

    A name is an expression of the essence of the one to whom it belongs.

    The first beast, Prosperity, is the entire world civilization. The 7 "heads" of this "beast" are the 7 world empires that enslaved the Jews, tempted them with the comfort of life without God: Ancient Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome and the USA.

    And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (Revelation 17:10)

    The 7th head, the USA, will at some point receive a "mortal wound", the Great Crisis - but this wound will quickly heal (thanks to the prayers of those deceived by the false prophet, the beast from the earth).

    The Scripture is very precise in its details. The false Jesus of Christianity has only 2 horns, while the real Lamb-Christ has 7 horns. The names of the "horns" of the real Jesus Christ are given in Isaiah:

    And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; (Isaiah 11:1,2)

    (1) Spirit of the Lord, (2) spirit of wisdom, (3) spirit of understanding, (4) spirit of counsel, (5) spirit of might, (6) spirit of knowledge, (7) spirit of the fear of the LORD, godliness.

    The names of the horns of the false Jesus are given in the New Testament:

    O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
    (1 Timothy 6:20)

    Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Timothy 3:5)

    Science falsely and false godliness. The two horns, the two powers of the false religion of the Antichrist: (1) false knowledge and (2) false godliness.

    The Antichrist in Revelation 13 is shown as the "image of the beast." Just as Jesus Christ is called the "image of God" in Scripture, there is also an "image of the beast" - the Antichrist.

    I didn't count the letters in George W. Bush's name, so I can't say anything about ignoring his middle name. But even taking into account the deviation from the norms of writing his name in Hebrew, the construction someone suggested seems worthy of attention.

    Well, how would you like it? So that it would be 666, so obvious to everyone? Then it would scare everyone so much that he would not be elected president. The signs should be hidden enough that only those who were pushed to it by God could see it.
     
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    From the Bible. The earthly events of the Second Coming of Christ are described in Ezekiel in chapters 40-48. Understanding of everything else is achieved by studying the entire New Testament. It is very important, when you undertake to study the Scriptures, to always pray and ask God to explain to you specifically what you do not understand. You must be persistent, ask God persistently until you yourself understand these things.
     
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    If it is so important that we understand these things, then why weren't they just made more clear right from the start?

    List specific dates of predictions, give specific details so we don't have to try and interpret them.
     
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    In order to implant ideas in humanity, you have to feed them in such a way that people ponder the riddles for a very, very long time and look for the answer. This makes a person read the text hundreds and thousands of times, so that the word enters not only the mind, but also the flesh of a person. From this, the written word is realized in the material world: from the multiple readings by billions of people.

    And you want a collection of ready-made answers. So you will not learn mathematics if you do not learn to think and solve independently.

    If you really need God, then you will find time to turn to Him. You will find time to read the Bible yourself. You will ask God the questions that arise in you while reading.

    Prophecies are never made absolutely clear. This is necessary so that you cooperate with the spirit from which they are given. You must be in the same spirit with the prophets.

    Sometimes such fragments were deliberately inserted into the text that would scare away unbelievers with their absurdity. It is like the shell of a walnut - to protect the fruit from people who are not faithful to God.

    Jesus did the same when he made everyone turn away from him, saying that they must eat his flesh and drink his blood in order to have life in themselves. These words turned everyone away from him, except for the twelve disciples, who simply had nowhere else to go.

    Woe to those teachers who gather thousands and millions of followers around themselves. They will turn out to be false prophets at the end of their careers, at the Second Coming of Christ.
     

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